Jul 28, 2025 City Council

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ARE YOU SURE? BEHIND ME. WOODEN PENCIL WOODWORK. YES, SIR. I SEE. I CALL THIS MEETING TO

[1. Call to Order]

GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION. WE KNOW THIS IS THEIR TAX DOLLARS, OUR TAX DOLLARS. WE NEED TO BE FRUGAL WITH THOSE DOLLARS, PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY PROTECT US. BE WITH US AS WE TRAVEL HOME. BE WITH EACH FAMILY REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT. WE ASK THIS IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. NO PUBLIC. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO WE'LL MOVE TO

[4. Receive and discuss a presentation regarding law enforcement solutions.]

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, PLEASE. START. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL. APPRECIATE YOU AFFORDING ME THIS TIME. I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO TOUCH BASE AS TO WHY THIS PROJECT STARTED BASICALLY ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. 3 OR 4 MONTHS AGO, I REACHED OUT TO BRADEN TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON THE AVAILABILITY TO IMPROVE OUR TASER PROGRAM. FOR Y'ALL THAT DON'T KNOW, I'VE BEEN THE TASER INSTRUCTOR SINCE 2009. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE NOTICED IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE PLATFORM OVER THE PAST 16 OR SO YEARS.

CURRENTLY, OUR TASER PROGRAM IS HAS AN IMPLEMENTATION OF AN X26 AND AN X26 P. SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT IS BASICALLY THE GEN TWO OUT OF ROUGHLY SEVEN GENERATIONS OF TASER. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY USING PLATFORMS THAT ARE ANYWHERE FROM 11 TO 16 YEARS OLD. WHAT BROUGHT ME TO CONTACTING BRADEN WAS I DID A TASER. I'M SORRY, I DID A TASER COURSE WITH ALL OF OUR OFFICERS, AT WHICH POINT I THEN INSPECT THE TASERS AND NOTICED THAT SEVERAL SEVERAL OF OUR TASERS WERE FAILING. WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE WERE HAVING LOW SPARK TESTS. WE WERE. I WAS RUNNING INTO SEVERAL ERROR MESSAGES AND UNFORTUNATELY THE X26 IS NO LONGER BEING SERVICED BY TASER ANYMORE. SO THAT PLATFORM IS OBSOLETE. AND AS FAR AS OUR ABILITY TO GET REPAIRS DONE TO THOSE UNITS. SO THE OFFICERS THAT HAVE THOSE ARE BASICALLY HOPING. I HATE TO USE THIS TERM, BUT IT'S LIKE HOPING ON A PRAYER THAT THEY PERFORM WELL AND THAT THEY DON'T TURN INTO SOMETHING THAT IS A BURDEN AND OR A FAILURE FOR THEM SHOULD THEY GET INTO A USE OF FORCE CONFLICT OUT THERE IN THE STREET? TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, LAST NIGHT WE HAD A SITUATION WHERE OFFICERS GOT INTO PURSUIT. DURING THIS PURSUIT, THERE WAS A FOOT BAIL OF THE SUSPECT. THE

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WE ARE. WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING A TON OF COMPLICATIONS WITH OUR TASER CAMERA OR I'M SORRY, OUR BODY CAMERAS ACTUALLY CONNECTING WITH THE MOBILE CAMERAS AND OUR ACTUAL BODY CAMERAS SERVE AS THE AUDIO FOR OUR MOBILE CAMERAS. SO IF THEY CAN'T SYNC, THEN WE HAVE NO AUDIO. AND THIS IS BECOMING A PROBLEM. THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS WE HAVE TWO PLACES IN WHICH WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE OFFICERS DRIVE TO IN ORDER TO UPLOAD THESE VIDEOS FOR CID, FOR THE BRASS. AND THOSE LOCATIONS ARE EITHER THE OLD POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT. WELL, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE WHERE YOU HAVE THERE IS NOW YOU HAVE TWO SERVERS THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO PAY FOR IN ORDER TO GET THESE UPLOADS, WHICH IS COSTLY.

CHRISTINE, IF IT'S OKAY IF I CAN GET CHRISTINE UP TO TALK ABOUT THE RECORD SIDE OF IT, SHE BASICALLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS WHEN A SERVER GETS FULL, YOU HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER SERVER. AND SO THAT BECOMES ANOTHER COST. AND THEN YOU HAVE TO TRANSFER ALL THAT MATERIAL OVER TO A NEW SERVER THAT'S BIGGER. AND THAT COULD TAKE ANYWHERE FROM DAYS TO A WEEK. AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN'T ACCESS THE MATERIAL WELL WITH THEIR SYSTEM. IT IS A CLOUD BASED SYSTEM AND ITS IMMEDIATE UPLOAD FROM THE TIME THE OFFICER STOPS THEIR VIDEO FROM THE BODY CAM AND THE VIDEO FROM THE MOBILE CAMERA, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY UPLOADED TO THE TO THE CLOUD. SUPERVISORS CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THAT MATERIAL WITHIN MINUTES. THE SAME WITH CID.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE TIMES WHERE OFFICERS GET SO BUSY THEY IN ORDER FOR US TO UPLOAD RIGHT NOW ON THE BODY CAMERA, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DOCK OUR CAMERAS INTO A STATION, AT WHICH POINT IT THEN UPLOADS THROUGH A HOTSPOT AND ONTO THAT SERVER. IF AN OFFICER RUNS INTO A, I DON'T KNOW, A BUSY DAY AND THEY LEAVE THE STATION AND FORGET TO DOCK THEIR CAMERA, I'VE DONE IT. IT'S TERRIBLE. AND CID NEEDS THAT MATERIAL. NOW THEY HAVE TO CALL THAT OFFICER IN AND WHICH THEN PUTS OVERTIME, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT OFFICER BEING CALLED IN POTENTIALLY. AND THUS IT BECOMES SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A NIGHT GUY, WHICH I USED TO BE. IT CAN BE CUMBERSOME ON THEM TO

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AND THUS IT ELIMINATES THE NECESSITY OF CALLING AN OFFICER WHO SPEAKS SPANISH OVER TO YOUR CALL AND FREES THEM UP TO WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ADDED RESPONSIBILITY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHENEVER AN OFFICER COMES IN WHO SPEAKS SPANISH FOR ANOTHER OFFICER WHO DOESN'T SPEAK SPANISH, WELL, NOW YOU'VE TAKEN TWO OFFICERS OFF THE STREET, BECAUSE AT THAT POINT, NOW THEY BOTH HAVE TO COME IN AND DO A REPORT BECAUSE THE OFFICER WHO'S TRANSLATING HAS TO DO A SUPPLEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OFFICER LIKE ME. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS SAID. SO NOW I CAN ONLY DO MY REPORT BASED OFF OF WHAT I KNOW, BUT THE OTHER OFFICER HAS TO FILL IN THAT HOLE, POTENTIALLY TAKING TWO OFFICERS NOW OFF THE STREET, WHEREAS THIS COULD BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER BY ALLOWING JUST THE ONE OFFICER TO HANDLE THE ENTIRE CONTACT. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE TO YOU GUYS TONIGHT, LET YOU KNOW WHY THIS HAS KIND OF COME ABOUT. IT'S BEEN. A REAL STRUGGLE HERE OF PROBABLY THE LAST, I WOULD SAY YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CAMERAS. NOW, BECAUSE MOTOROLA HAS TAKEN OVER AND THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT VERY RELIABLE. WE'VE RUNNING INTO BATTERY ISSUES THAT ARE SENDING THE CAMERAS INTO NOW THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY WHILE THE OFFICERS ARE OUT ON THE SHIFT, AND IT'S SENDING THE CAMERA INTO LIKE A STANDBY MODE OR REBOOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WELL, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS. AND AT THIS POINT, IF THE IF THE BODY CAMERA GOES, THEN NOW WE'RE SUBJECT TO SCRUTINY. AND THE ONE ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH THE CAMERA HERE AGAIN, IS THAT SINKING TO THE MOBILE, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS ABOUT AXON THAT I REALLY LIKED WAS THE FACT THAT THE MOBILE CAMERAS DON'T HAVE THE BIG, CLUNKY SCREENS THAT OBSTRUCT THE VIEW OF OFFICERS AS WELL. THERE'S IS ALL WEB BASED, SO THEREFORE YOU YOU CAN WATCH EVERYTHING ON THE COMPUTER. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO GET INTO IT. BUT ANOTHER THING AND I'LL TOUCH ON THIS REALLY QUICK. AND BEING OUT ON THE STREET, I EXPERIENCED THIS A LOT. THERE WOULD BE OFFICERS WHO WOULD BE OUT ON A TRAFFIC STOP, AND THEY WOULD FORGET, OR THEY EITHER FORGET TO TURN THE RADIO ON, OR WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS THEY'D TURN IT DOWN SO THAT THEY COULD HEAR THE VIOLATOR, OR IT COULD BE A CALL. I'VE DONE IT MYSELF, BASICALLY, AT THAT POINT, IF DISPATCH DOESN'T HEAR FROM YOU WITHIN SO MANY MINUTES, WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL START DOING A STATUS CHECK FOR THE OFFICER, AT WHICH POINT, YEARS PAST, WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM THE OFFICER. AND WHEN WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING NOW, EVERY OFFICER IS FLOODED TO THAT LOCATION. SOMETIMES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE CALL WAS, IT MAY BE CODE THREE. WELL, THIS PUTS AN ADDED DANGER TO THE PUBLIC OUT ON THE STREET AS WELL. RUNNING CODE THREE TO AN OFFICER WHO BASICALLY FORGOT TO TURN ON THE RADIO. SO WITH THIS CAMERA SYSTEM, BASICALLY IT WILL ALLOW US, THE SUPERVISORS AND OR DISPATCH TO ACTUALLY LOG INTO THEIR CAMERA TO CHECK THEIR STATUS BASED OFF OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND WE CAN ACTUALLY TALK TO THE OFFICER AND SAY, HEY, TURN YOUR RADIO ON, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE THE NECESSITY FOR AN OFFICER TO HAVE TO RUN, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY LIGHTS AND SIREN TO A GUY WHO JUST FORGOT TO TURN ON THE RADIO. THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT OF BENEFITS. WE HAVE A BASICALLY WE HAVE A GOOD MOUSETRAP RIGHT NOW, BUT WE NEED A BETTER MOUSETRAP, ONE THAT CAN ACTUALLY FUNCTION WHEN THE OFFICERS NEED IT. SO THEY'VE BUILT A BETTER MOUSETRAP IS THE WAY I LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, USE THE ANALOGY FOR THAT. AND SO

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THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO PROBES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT, THAT LOCKUP.

AND IF ONE PROBE HITS, YOU CAN STILL ACHIEVE THAT LOCKUP, BUT YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY GET CLOSE ENOUGH TO THEM AND ACTUALLY PUT THE PROBE OR NOT THE PROBE, BUT THE CARTRIDGE ONTO THE BODY.

THAT WAY YOU'LL YOU'LL MAKE THAT CIRCUIT LINK. AND THEREFORE BUT HERE'S THE PROBLEM. WHEN THEY FALL, YOU GOT TO FALL WITH THEM. SO WHEN THE CARTRIDGE COMES OFF YOU HAVE TO GET RIGHT BACK ON OR, OR THAT NEUROMUSCULAR INCAPACITATION WILL CEASE TO EXIST. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I HOPE I'M EXPLAINING THAT WELL ENOUGH. AND SO PART OF THE NEW SOLUTION TO, BECAUSE THIS CURRENT TECHNOLOGY IS ABOUT HALF THE PROGRAMS, 2002 TECHNOLOGY WITH US. AND THEN THE OTHER HALF IS 2013, IT'S PART OF THE COUPLE KEY FEATURES FOR THE NEW PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE IS OUR TASER TEN, WHICH IS 2024 TECHNOLOGY. AND SO IT'S A TEN SHOT DEVICE AS OPPOSED TO JUST A ONE SHOT. YOU ALSO GET TO CHOOSE YOUR PROBE SPREAD. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST ABOUT FIVE FEET BACK FROM THE SUBJECT IN ORDER TO GET ENOUGH PROBE SPREAD. AND THAT CAPS AT ABOUT 17. THIS NEW DEVICE, BECAUSE I CAN NOW PICK MY PROBE SPREAD BECAUSE IT'S TEN SHOT INDIVIDUALLY PLACED, I CAN GO FROM ZERO FEET OF DISTANCE AND GET FULL LOCKUP UP TO 45FT OF DISTANCE. SO IT'S GIVEN THE OFFICERS OVER TWICE THE AMOUNT OF SAFETY TIME IN THOSE SITUATIONS, AND THE CONFIDENCE OF A TEN SHOT DEVICE VERSUS, AGAIN, THE SITUATION LAST NIGHT WHERE YOU HEAR AN OFFICER HAS ONE SHOT AND THEN HAVING TO GO TO OTHER MEASURES, IT GIVES THEM A WHOLE LOT MORE SAFETY AND DISTANCE WITH UP TO TEN ATTEMPTS. THE CAMERAS ACTUALLY ACTIVATE THE CAMERAS IN THE VEHICLE ALSO. IT WILL. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. IT CAN, IT CAN. YES, IT DOES HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. THE OTHER THE OTHER CAPABILITY HERE. AND THIS IS SOMETHING I WANTED, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WITH THE NEW TASER TEN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO, WHAT WE HAVE HAD HAVE HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS THERE ARE SITUATIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SO QUICKLY THAT AN OFFICER HAS COME OUT WITH A TASER BEFORE THEY CAN GET THEIR BODY CAMERA ON BECAUSE OF WHATEVER THE SITUATION MAY BE. AND SO A DEPLOYMENT HAS BEEN HAS BEEN DONE WITHOUT ANY VIDEO FOOTAGE. AND WITH THE NEW TASER TEN, THIS WILL ELIMINATE THAT, BECAUSE AS SOON AS IT COMES FROM THE HOLSTER, IT WILL AND IT'S POWERED UP. IT WILL TURN THE CAMERA ON AUTOMATICALLY TO RECORDING FOR AXON BODY CAMERAS AND CAR CAMERAS. IT'LL START ALL THE RECORDINGS WITHIN BLUETOOTH RANGE. SO NOT ONLY JUST THAT OFFICER, BUT ANY OFFICER ON SCENE CAN START RECORDING THEIR CAMERAS AS WELL FOR THAT TRANSCRIPTION. RIGHT. AND IF I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. OH NO NO NO, NOT AT ALL. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. YES, SIR. WHAT OTHER JURISDICTIONS ARE USING YOUR TECHNOLOGY? YEAH. GREAT. I MEAN, JUST JUST TO NAME A TWO. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE NATIONWIDE ABOUT 80% OF AGENCIES ARE ON AXON. I SPECIFY IN ALL AGENCIES IN THIS AREA UNDER 50 SWORN. SO JUST TO NAME A FEW, KAUFMAN COUNTY PRECINCT TWO JUST SIGNED A PROPOSAL. THEY'VE BEEN WITH AXON FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT ABOUT IDENTICAL TO THIS ONE. FORNEY JUST CAME ON LAST YEAR. MESQUITE AS WELL. IN THIS AREA, I CAN PROVIDE A REFERENCE LIST AS DALLAS PD JUST SIGNED A BRAND NEW PROJECT. I'VE TALKED TO TERRELL. TERRELL IS ACTUALLY. YES, SIR. TERRELL IS ON THERE.

YES SIR I HAVE, YEAH. AND I'M SURE A THUMBS UP BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR. AND I WILL I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU GUYS. AND I TOLD BRADEN THIS, THIS IS FUNNY. I WAS NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR TASER BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THE CHIEF CAME TO ME AND SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO TASER INSTRUCTOR SCHOOL. I WAS LIKE, NAH, NO, I'M NOT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE SAME FOR ME. THAT THING'S KILLING PEOPLE. BUT AFTER I WENT THROUGH THE SCHOOL, I WAS A BELIEVER. I MEAN, IT IS IT IS A GREAT TOOL FOR THE OFFICER. I WILL SAY THIS. WE HAVE BACK IN THE DAY, WE USED TO GO THROUGH OC LIKE CRAZY. AND SINCE WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THE TASER, OUR OC USE OF FORCE HAS DROPPED PROBABLY 98%. WE VERY, VERY SELDOM DO WE HAVE OC DEPLOYMENTS. AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE TASER IS MORE TARGET SPECIFIC THAN THE OC SPRAY, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OTHER OFFICERS GETTING EXPOSED TO THE OC, THUS

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UNFORTUNATELY, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE NOW IS WE HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE IN ORDER FOR IT TO OPERATE CORRECTLY. BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WENT, IT WAS GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUT NOW THERE'S SO MUCH BETTER TECHNOLOGY WITH THE ABILITY FOR AN OFFICER TO ACTUALLY PLACE A PROBE WHERE HE WANTS IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE TRAINING IS YOU HAD TO AVOID SENSITIVE AREAS LIKE THE NECK AND THE GENITALS AND THE HEAD AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY, YOU CAN ACTUALLY FIRE ONE SINGLE PROBE IN A LEG AND THEN FIRE ANOTHER PROBE INTO THE STOMACH, AVOIDING HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT, WELL, IS THIS SPREAD OF THESE TWO PROBES GOING TO ACTUALLY PENETRATE A PERSON'S GENITALIA OR EYE OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? SO IT'S EVEN MORE TARGET SPECIFIC WITH THIS NEW PLATFORM. YEAH. AND ON THE TRAINING SIDE AS WELL AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES TO. SO THEIR CURRENT PROGRAM TODAY, IF A TASER GOES DOWN THEY'RE NOT UNDER WARRANTY. AND YOU HAVE TO BUY A NEW ONE. UNBUDGETED CURRENTLY, TRAINING EVERY SINGLE YEAR IS FULLY A LA CARTE TO WHERE THAT'S A BUDGETED PIECE OR HAS TO BE PURCHASED IN THE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BUDGET CYCLE. AND ANY DEPLOYMENT HAS A DOLLAR COST TO THAT, TOO, OF HAVING TO BUY NEW TRAINING CARTRIDGES. THEIR CURRENT TRAINING RIGHT NOW IS A RECOMMENDATION OF DEPLOYING 1 TO 2 PROBES OR CARTRIDGES, I SHOULD SAY, AT A STANDSTILL TARGET ONCE A YEAR, AND THEN THAT'S YOUR TRAINING FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. THIS CURRENT NEW PACKAGE SENDS OUT ANNUAL TRAINING CARTRIDGES FOR BOTH REALITY BASED PHYSICAL TRAINING AND PERSON, WHERE YOU'RE DEPLOYING AT A MOVING TARGET. IT ALSO COMES WITH ANNUAL TRAINING CARTRIDGES TO DEPLOY AT THAT TARGET. BUT THEN IT ALSO COMES WITH A VIRTUAL REALITY HEADSET THAT NOT ONLY DOES TASER TRAINING YEAR ROUND TO WHERE YOU CAN GET AN OFFICER TRAINING IN A HEADSET WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS, BECAUSE THAT'S UNLIMITED, BUT IT ALSO COMES WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TRAINING, WHERE YOU CAN NOW TRAIN OFFICERS TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH CRISES, DISABILITIES, ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE UNLIMITED THROUGH THE WHOLE YEAR. AND SO THAT JUST COMES AS A PART OF THE PROGRAM. THAT'S NOT EVEN TO MENTION, YOU KNOW, PART OF JUST THE TASER SIDE AS WELL. SO THIS IS ALL IN THERE TO WHERE THIS IS NOW CAN BECOME A SET IT AND FORGET IT PROGRAM. ASIDE FROM JUST THE NATURE OF TEXAS'S MOST GROWING STATE IN THE COUNTRY. BUT FOR THE CURRENT HEADCOUNT THAT WE'VE PROPOSED, IT CAN BE A SET IT AND FORGET IT FOR THE NEXT 5 OR 10 YEARS, DEPENDING ON THE PACKAGE YOU GO WITH ON THE TASER SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS WELL. ARE THESE LIKE BEING LEASED? SO WHEN NEW TECHNOLOGY COMES, WILL WE GET YOUR TASERS OR ARE THESE PURCHASES. YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. SO IT'S A FULL OWNERSHIP PROGRAM ON THE HARDWARE SIDE. YOU OWN THOSE TASER HANDLES WITH US. THEY DO HOLD A FIVE YEAR RECOMMENDED USEFUL LIFE. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS WE AT THAT TIME WOULD BE PREPARED TO OFFER A BUYBACK TOWARDS NEW TECHNOLOGY. BUT IF YOU DECIDE AT THE END OF THE FIVE OR THE TEN YEARS TO WALK AWAY FROM THAT AND JUST CONTINUE TO OWN AND FUND JUST THE TRAINING, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO. IT'S AN OWNERSHIP PROGRAM. IF YOU DO GO TO THE TEN YEAR ROUTE, WE REFRESH THOSE SAME TASERS HALFWAY THROUGH. SO AT THE FIVE YEAR POINT YOU WOULD GET ALL NEW TASER TENS. BUT THEN AT THE END OF THE PROGRAM, IT'S A FULL OWNERSHIP TO DO WHAT YOU WILL WITH THOSE, WHETHER IT'S US, BUY THEM BACK OR SO FORTH FROM THERE. WITH THAT OTHER SIDE OF THAT, WE DO OFFER THAT INTEREST FREE FINANCING PLAN WITH A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY ON HOW YOU GUYS PAY THAT OVER THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS. SO THERE IS THAT INTEREST FREE PAYMENT PLAN. I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN FROM SOME OF THE INITIAL PROPOSALS WITH US AS WELL, YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU WANT. ONLY SHOOT ONE, ONE CARTRIDGE. YES, SIR. THAT'S IT. YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. IT'S ONE WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEPLOYMENTS THAT HAVE NOT ACHIEVED NEUROMUSCULAR INCAPACITATION BECAUSE OF EITHER A DISTANCE ISSUE OR WE JUST HAVE A CLOTHING DISCONNECT WHERE A PROBE WILL ACTUALLY ENTER THE SUBJECT, BUT THEN IT GRAZES THE, THE FABRIC. THEY'VE THEY'VE ALSO IMPROVED THEIR PROBE TECHNOLOGY TO WHERE YOU GET BETTER CONNECTS NOW. SO THEY'VE IMPROVED A LOT ON THAT ASPECT TO WHERE WHEN YOU PUT A PROBE WHERE YOU WANT IT, IT'S GOING TO STICK. THE LIKELIHOOD IS MUCH GREATER, MUCH GREATER.

AND I BELIEVE ALSO THE NEW AND THIS IS ANOTHER THING ON THE CAMERAS, THE BODY CAMERAS AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW, WE'VE HAD, I BELIEVE 6 OR 7 FAIL HERE AS OF THE LAST FEW WEEKS. AND ONE OF

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE'RE GOING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE. RECEIVE AND DISCUSS

[5. Receive and discuss a presentation regarding water, wastewater and stormwater rates.]

SORRY. I WISH I BROUGHT MY GLASSES. THEY'RE IN THE TRUCK. GO GET THEM. YOU CAN STILL GO OUT THERE. INTERRUPT SOME OF THESE VIEWS. AWESOME. YOU CAN GO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. I DON'T KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AT HOME, I LISTEN, THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBER AFTER THE. I'VE KIND OF MADE A WAY. OH, THAT'S FINE. I'M GIVING EVERYONE A MINUTE TO GET SITUATED. I THINK EVERYONE'S GOT IT OPEN NOW. MY NAME IS ERIC FELTHOUSE. I'M WITH NUGEN

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AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT. THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO PARTS TO THIS PRESENTATION. THE FIRST PART IS ABOUT THE WATER AND THE WASTEWATER, AND THE SECOND PART IS ABOUT THE STORM WATER WITHIN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. WE'RE GOING TO START OFF TO KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THE DRIVERS OF THE BUDGET. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL MOVE INTO HOW THAT AFFECTS THE RATES AND THEN HOW THAT AFFECTS THE CHARGES TO THE CUSTOMERS. SO LOOKING AT THE SECOND SLIDE, WE DO LIKE TO START OFF BY POINTING OUT THAT THESE ARE THREE BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS. THE REVENUE SUFFICIENCY RESERVES AND REINVESTMENT REVENUE SUFFICIENCY. YOU ALWAYS GOT TO HAVE YOUR REVENUES GREATER THAN YOUR EXPENSES. TECHNICALLY I'LL COME ACROSS AN EXCEPTION HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT BUT OVERALL THAT THAT'S A DEFINITE NEED.

NEXT RESERVES. YOU ALWAYS GOT TO PLAN FOR A RAINY DAY. WE ALL KNOW STUFF HAPPENS, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST 5 OR 10 YEARS. IT'S BEEN A LITTLE MORE EXCITING THAN THE PREVIOUS 5 OR 10 YEARS. AND THEN FINALLY REINVESTMENT, WHETHER IT'S REPAIRING, REPLACING OR CREATING NEW, YOU GOT TO REINVEST IN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND SUCH IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A FAILURE. BECAUSE WHENEVER IT COMES TO WATER AND WASTEWATER, EVERYONE EXPECTS IT JUST TO COME ON. THEY EXPECT THE TOILET TO FLUSH. IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN, AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO FAIL ON THAT. SO WHILE WHILE I DO MENTION THE BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A BALANCE BETWEEN THE BUSINESS FUNDAMENTALS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THE CUSTOMER, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR EVERY RAINY DAY EVENT AND GO WILD WITH THE RATE YOU GOT TO MANAGE THE TWO OF THEM. SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE FOUR. FOR JUST ABOUT EVERY ENTITY I'VE EVER SEEN, IT'S THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND THAT REALLY DRIVES OR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT REALLY DRIVES THE OVERALL COST AND THE RATES, THE REINVESTMENT HERE. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EITHER FRACTIONS OF MILLIONS OR MILLIONS, MULTIPLE MILLIONS. IN SOME CASES, IT ADDS UP REALLY FAST. AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE A GREAT IMPACT TO YOUR, YOUR BUDGET AND THEREFORE YOUR RATES. THE NEXT SLIDE LABELED CAPITAL FUNDING. THIS SHOWS THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS BROKEN OUT BETWEEN WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AND WITHIN WATER. WE'VE GOT THE WATER THE CASH AND THE DEBT. AND THEN SAME FOR WASTEWATER. AND THEN THE TOTAL AT THE BOTTOM. COUPLE OF MAIN THINGS I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT DOWN THERE FOR PROJECTED NEW DEBT NEXT TO THE LAST LINE, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S NO PROJECTED NEW DEBT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS. AND THEN WE'VE GOT THREE YEARS OF DEBT. YOU'LL ALSO SEE IN THE VERY BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER, THE TOTAL FOR THOSE FIVE YEARS IS OVER $19 MILLION. SO ONCE AGAIN, THAT THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE YOUR RATES AN AWFUL LOT. MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE. SLIDE SIX. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THERE'S THREE PLANNED DEBT SERVICE ISSUANCES. AND THE FIRST ONE IS IN 2027. THAT KIND OF RELATES BACK TO WHAT I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO ABOUT HOW THE PAYMENTS START A YEAR.

EXCUSE ME. ANYWAY. SO ON THIS SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FIRST BOND ISSUE IS IN 2027.

ANYTIME YOU HAVE A BOND ISSUE, OR ALMOST FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, WHENEVER YOU HAVE A BOND ISSUE, THE FIRST PAYMENT ON THAT BOND ISSUE IS USUALLY THE FOLLOWING YEAR. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE NEW DEBT IN OR PROJECTED DEBT IN 2027. EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A BOND ISSUE, YOU SEE IT IN 2028 AND THEN IN IN 2029, THAT NUMBER GROWS. SO FLIPPING TO SLIDE SEVEN, THE OTHER LARGE ITEM THAT IS IN THE BUDGET IS THE WHOLESALE EXPENSES. WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER OR WASTEWATER, DW OR NTM. THIS CAN BE A VERY LARGE EXPENSE. AND IT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF SOMEWHAT OUT OF YOUR CONTROL, AND THEREFORE IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO MANAGE SOMETIMES. AND WHILE YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT FOR DW ON ABOUT THAT SECOND OR THIRD ROW DOWN, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE GOT A 5.8% INTEREST INCREASE, EXCUSE ME, 8.8% INCREASE. SO YOU CAN SEE THEIR INCREASES. AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE PERCENT OF WATER EXPENSES THAT THIS MAKES UP. SO ONCE AGAIN THESE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON YOUR OVERALL COST AND

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE 14% INCREASE IN WATER 14.4 AND A LITTLE OVER 12.5% IN WASTEWATER.

MOVING ON TO SLIDE 15. BOTH OF THESE PLANS INTEND TO DRAW DOWN THE FUND BALANCE. THE FUND BALANCE IS PRETTY HIGH RIGHT NOW. SO THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. AND ALSO BOTH PLANTS KEEP THE CASH BALANCE ABOVE THE 60 DAY THRESHOLD. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OPTION ONE, THE VERY BOTTOM LINE OF OPTION ONE ON SLIDE 15 DAYS OF CASH ON HAND, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE START AT 340 AND WE GET

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AND THEN FOR OPTION TWO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, 5000 GALLONS. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY. YOU'RE LOOKING AT $11.82 OF AN INCREASE. AND THAT WAS FOR OPTION ONE $9.11. AND THEN ON SLIDE 22 FOR THE 10,000 GALLONS, ONCE AGAIN, SUMMER WATER BILL, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A $21 INCREASE. AND OPTION ONE WAS ABOUT A $16 INCREASE. EITHER ONE OF THESE OPTIONS PUT OUR FUTURE CIP IN JEOPARDY OR HAVING TO DELAY THOSE PROJECTS RIGHT NOW, AND NOT BASED ON WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND I'LL EVEN POINT OUT THAT WITH THOSE DAYS OF OPERATING CASH, I MEAN, THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE CUSHION AS WELL. AND EVEN WITH THE LESS LESS AGGRESSIVE ONE, YOU STILL HAVE SOME DAYS OF OPERATING CASH THAT, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY COULD BE APPLIED OR UTILIZED IN AN UPCOMING YEAR. AND FOR THE FUTURE DATES, THESE ARE EXISTING METERS TODAY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. ARE WE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL GROWTH IN THOSE. THERE WAS A YEAH 1.4% GROWTH FACTORED IN. HOW MANY HOMES I DON'T RECALL. I CAN LOOK THAT UP FOR YOU THOUGH OKAY. THANK YOU.

SURE. SO NEXT LOOKING AT SLIDE 24 YOU CAN SEE HOW THESE BILLS FOR 2000 GALLONS OF WATER

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SO I NEED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE CALCULATED. OKAY. SO CURRENTLY WE'RE TRYING TO WE'RE TRYING TO CALCULATE. CURRENTLY THEY'RE TRYING TO CALCULATE THAT FOR US. WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS CALCULATED IN THE PAST. SO THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL THAT YOU ALL APPROVED A FEW MONTHS BACK. OF THE $60,000 TONIGHT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET AHEAD OF THAT CURVE. THEY'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION FOR US NEXT YEAR OR SOMETIME DURING THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. BUT WE CAN SEE FINANCIALLY THAT WE'RE NOT IN A GOOD POINT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT CURVE. IT IS CALCULATED OFF IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW THE CALCULATIONS WERE MADE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM. SO WHEN A NEW BUSINESS COMES IN, THEY'RE NOT CALCULATED THEIR ACTUAL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BECAUSE NONE OF US HERE KNOW HOW TO CALCULATE THAT. SO THAT'S PART THAT THAT'S PART OF WHY WE'RE HIRING THEM.

RIGHT. SO INITIALLY WHEN THIS CAME UP IT CAME UP THROUGH GAIL AND THE AUDITORS AND THEY WERE ASKING US, WE REACHED OUT TO THE ENGINEERS MULTIPLE TIMES THAT CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN AND HELP US IMPLEMENT IT INITIALLY BACK IN 2007, AND WE NEVER COULD GET AN ANSWER FROM THEM. SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT TODAY AND WHY WE CONTRACTED NEW GEN TO DO THIS. SO TONIGHT THEY'RE JUST DOING A PROPOSAL BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW AND WHAT WE CAN SEE HAPPENING WITH THE BUDGET AND NEXT BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE AND KNOW THE CALCULATIONS FOR EVERY SITE.

THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS ON LOOKING AT SOME OF THE SITES AND MEASURING EVERYTHING OUT, AND THEY'RE WORKING ON A PLAN TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. BUT AT THIS POINT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THAT. SO WE'RE JUST DOING A GENERIC IMPLEMENTATION OF THE WHAT THEY KNOW TODAY. BUT WHAT I'M SEEING HERE, CHRIS, IS WE START OFF AT 385. AND THEN THERE'S A DOLLAR. YEAH. SO TO ME THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FEES THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMBINED. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING 485. SO THE ELU AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACES ARE THE SAME THING. IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. SO WHAT HE'S SAYING IS MOST RESIDENTIAL OR 1 TO 3 L USE WHICH IS BASED ON IMPERVIOUS SURFACE IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM. AND THEY HAVE A FEE SET OF 385.

BUT LIKE YOUR BIGGER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES HAVE MORE AND THEY'RE HIGHER AND THEY'RE PAID ON A DOLLAR PER, YOU KNOW, PER. SO IF IT'S FOUR, IT'S $4 TO THOSE OR IF IT'S TEN, IT'S $10 PER MONTH FOR THOSE. AND LIKE WALMART I WANT TO SAY THEY'RE 200. RIGHT. SO THEY'RE $200 A MONTH OKAY.

HE'S GOING TO GET TO THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN. HOUSES WILL BE PAYING FOR, YOU KNOW THE 4 TO 900 IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN LIKELY WALMART. IT'S GOING TO BE YOUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. THEY'RE GOING TO VARY IN SIZE, I MEAN, BUT A SMALLER PROPERTY, A SMALLER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY COULD BE THREE OR IT COULD BE TWO. HE'S JUST THEY'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN OUR SYSTEM. AND NEXT BUDGET YEAR, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OR USE ARE AT EACH SITE. SO IF WE RAIN HARVEST, DO WE GET A CREDIT? I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT SHOE. BUT BUT I ASKED YEAH. SO FOR AN EXAMPLE I'M GOING TO SAY YOU GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT'S 100FTS AND IT'S GOT 20FT■!S OF IMPERVIS WHATEVER ON IT. IS THAT HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE CALCULATED OR ON THE 20, ON THE IMPERVIOUS AREA,

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THEY'RE GOING TO GO ON DOWN TO EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY IN THE CITY AND CALCULATE THIS FOR US.

YEAH. BECAUSE DCAD IS GOING TO HAVE ALL THE BUILDING INFORMATION FOR KAUFMAN COUNTY.

ON THE FEW PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN KAUFMAN. YOU GET TAXED ON IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S THE BASIC THING. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK AS THE IMPROVEMENTS. EXACTLY. YEAH. OKAY. TAXED ON IMPROVEMENTS. HE'LL GET TO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AT THE END I CAN COME UP AND HELP EXPLAIN SOME OF IT. I GOT IT NOW. I JUST THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE CHARGED BOTH. AND IT'S LIKE, NO, IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO ON SLIDE 34 WITH OPTION ONE YOU CAN SEE ABOUT THE FOURTH LINE DOWN. THE INCREASE IN RATE IS $0.70 FOR EACH YEAR. FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS, AND THEN $0.10 FOR THE FINAL TWO YEARS. AND FOR LOCATIONS WITH FOUR TO AND ABOVE. THE INCREASE IS $0.18 FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND $0.03 FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. OKAY. IT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE MAKES SENSE BEFORE WE MOVE ON, BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WILL GET WORSE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? WE DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR EACH PROPERTY. NO. HOW DO YOU EQUATE AN IOU TO SQUARE FOOTAGE? WELL, YEAH, WE WILL BE. WE ARE DOING THAT. WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. THE NEW ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DON'T THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED THAT EXERCISE. THEY'RE IN THE MIDST OF DOING THAT RIGHT NOW. YEP. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. YEAH. IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST USING WHAT WAS IN THE SYSTEM. RIGHT. SO ON SLIDE 35, LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED RATES, OPTION ONE, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHILE WE DO TOUCH 60 DAYS OF DAYS CASH ON HAND AND WE END AT 64, BUT WE NEVER GO BELOW 60. AND THEN FOR REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES WE MEET THE MEET THE CRITERIA. THE NEXT SLIDE, OPTION TWO. AND THIS ONE IS THE SLIGHTLY MORE AGGRESSIVE ONE.

AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE INCREASE TO THE RATE FOR 1 TO 3 YEARS IS $0.75 INSTEAD OF 70.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE HIGHER RATE IN THE BEGINNING, WE'RE ABLE TO DROP THE SECOND PART FROM TEN DOWN TO FIVE, A FIVE CENT INCREASE. AND THEN LOCATIONS WITH 4 TO 900. WE'RE LOOKING AT 19 CENT INCREASE FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS AND THEN A $0.01 INCREASE FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO YEARS. AND THE WAY THAT WE CAME UP WITH THE 19, THE 19 CENT AND THE $0.01, IT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE INCREASE AS THE $0.75 AND THE $0.05. SO WHETHER YOU'RE IN THE 1 TO 3 OR THE 4 TO 900 ELLA'S, IT'S THE SAME PERCENTAGE INCREASE. BUT I CAN SEE THAT NUMBER A PENNY. COME 2029, WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING MORE THAN IT'S GOING TO BE A MORE INCREASE THAN THAT. YEAH. NICKEL OR A PENNY YOU KNOW. YEAH. YEAH. WELL AND IT'S GOING TO BE CALCULATED DIFFERENTLY WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF NUMBERS. I MEAN THE. THE PRICES WILL PROBABLY BE BOUNCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT THEY ARE NOW. I MEAN SOME PROPERTIES WILL GO UP, SOME PROPERTIES WILL GO DOWN. AND YEAH IT CAN BE QUITE DIFFERENT UP OR DOWN. YOU KNOW USUALLY THE MONEY SHIFTS FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. ANNUALLY. SO YEAH THAT'S TODAY'S IN TODAY'S. SO EVERYTHING THE BIG CHANGES AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE MY NOTES I WANT LAST YEAR'S PRESENTATION BECAUSE I THINK YEAH THOSE NUMBERS ARE BIG TO ME. IN MY OPINION. THEY FLUCTUATE. SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING LAST WEEK AND CARRIE HAD THEM COME IN AND ADJUST OPTION ONE. IT WAS CURRENTLY A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN IT IS NOW OR YES. AND WE PUT IN THE SAME OPTION, ONE THAT WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR IN AS OPTION ONE ON THIS THIS YEAR. SO WE HAD ANOTHER OPTION PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS SLIGHTLY LOWER AND IT

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YEAH. SO OKAY. SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ALWAYS LIKE TO REITERATE IS THE AT LEAST ANNUAL IF NOT QUARTERLY OR MORE. YOU KNOW, JUST MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOING AS WE'RE PROJECTED, YOU KNOW, IF, IF REVENUES ARE NOT COMING IN AS HIGH AS WE EXPECTED OR IF EXPENSES ARE GOING HIGHER THAN WE EXPECTED, YOU KNOW, ADJUSTMENTS MIGHT NEED TO BE MADE. I MEAN, THINGS THINGS CHANGE, THINGS HAPPEN. SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE A MID-YEAR REPORT? WELL, WITH THIS CHANGE. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE A SEMIANNUAL REVIEW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UP TO DATE FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS, LIKE A SIX MONTH, LIKE A MID-YEAR REPORT. YEAH. KEEP IT BRISK. SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD, LET'S LET HIM FINISH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN DISCUSS SOME MORE, OKAY? OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO LOOKING AT SLIDE 37 PROPOSED RATES. OPTION TWO FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE. YOU CAN QUICKLY LOOK AT THAT AND SEE THAT WE MEET ALL THE CRITERIA. I'LL TRY TO FLY THROUGH THIS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE EAGER FOR THE DISCUSSION. AND THEN ON SLIDE 38 WE HAVE THE COMPARABLES TO LOOK AT THERE. AND ON ONE HAND, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SAW WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE BOTTOM HALF. UNLIKE WATER AND WASTEWATER, NOT AS MANY CITIES HAVE STORM WATER FEES SET UP. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE AS MANY CITIES AS YOU SAW WITH WATER AND WASTEWATER. SO THEN IF YOU MOVE ON TO SLIDE 39, VERY SIMILAR SITUATION. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE THIS IS FOR COMMERCIAL SIZED BILLS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 14 ISSUES. AND LOOKING AT THE CUSTOMERS THAT Y'ALL HAD THAT ARE IN THAT AREA OF 14 ISSUES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE LIKE A VET, A VETERINARIAN CLINIC THAT MIGHT BE 14 AND THAT MIGHT BE APPROXIMATELY WHAT THEY'RE PAYING. OF COURSE, EACH VET IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IDEA. AND THEN ON SLIDE 40, IT'S A VERY SIMILAR THING, ALTHOUGH THIS TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT KIND OF A MEDIUM COMMERCIAL. IN THIS CASE WE WERE LOOKING AT 35. AND THAT'S PROBABLY LIKE A FAST FOOD PLACE.

LOOKING AT SLIDE 41, WE'RE LOOKING AT LARGE L U IN THIS CASE A PHARMACY KIND OF FIT INTO THIS, THIS CATEGORY. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, BUT THEY'RE GOING UP FOR EVERYBODY. SO YOU'RE HOLDING YOUR CURRENT PLACES. AND EVEN THE FINAL ONE ON 42 ON SLIDE 42.

YOU CAN SEE THAT FOR SUPERSTORE, YOUR YOU, YOUR YOUR PRICES HAVE GONE UP. HOWEVER OTHERS HAVE GONE UP A LOT MORE. AND FOR SLIDE 42, WE'RE TALKING LIKE A DEPARTMENT STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THE LARGEST ENTITY THAT SHOWED UP ON THE REPORT WAS THE FEDERAL CORRECTIONAL INSTITUTE. AND THE SECOND LARGEST WAS THE WALMART. YES, THE FEDS ARE EXEMPT. I'M SURPRISED. NOT YET. SO THAT KIND OF WRAPS IT UP. WE'VE GOT THE NEXT STEPS LAID OUT HERE. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO WANT TO REITERATE THE FACT THAT WITH THESE COMPARISONS WITH OTHER ENTITIES, ONCE AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR EXACT SITUATION IS. SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE APPLES TO APPLES. AND, YOU KNOW, IN BOTH OF THESE SITUATIONS WE'RE COMPARING YOUR POTENTIAL FUTURE RATES WITH THEIR CURRENT RATES. AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE STILL LOWER THAN THAT SHOWS THAT YOU'RE EXTREMELY COMPETITIVE IN THAT REGARD. SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. AND OR I'M VERY INTERESTED IN FEEDBACK. SO AS OF NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS. SO AS OF NOW WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE SYSTEM, WHICH WAS DEVELOPED BY HALF AND IMPLEMENTED BACK PREVIOUS 2007 OH 912 SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIME FRAME. SINCE THEN, ALL THE NEW

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JUST CREATING A LOGICAL CALCULATION ON THE INFORMATION ON THE RIGHT NUMBER OF USE PER COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT, AND THAT WE WILL SEE THAT NEXT BUDGET AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU ALL IF THEY HAVE IT IN PLACE AND TOGETHER BY APRIL, WE MAY COME BACK TO YOU AND TRY TO IMPLEMENT IT. THEN IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THEIR TIMELINE ON HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A LENGTHY PROCESS FOR SURE. BUT CURRENTLY TODAY, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND ADJUSTING THE RATES SLIGHTLY TO GET US AHEAD, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE DROPPING BEHIND IMMEDIATELY NEXT YEAR. SO WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE TERM IOUS. WE JUST I GUESS IT HADN'T BEEN PRESENTED TO US. IT WAS PRESENTED AS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE. BUT THIS IS THE TECHNICAL WAY IT SHOULD BE PRESENTED. THAT MAKES SENSE NOW. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM FOR ME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WAS JUST AS CONFUSED AS Y'ALL. AND SO WAS KERRY WHEN WE MET ON THIS. I'VE MET ON IT FOUR TIMES NOW AND KERRY'S ONLY TWICE NOW I THINK. SO, NO, DON'T GET WITH TECHNICAL TERMS. COME TO US AVERAGE CITIZEN. WE ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS AS Y'ALL FOR SURE. SO WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE UP OUR MIND ON OPTIONS? LIKE FOR THE. PROPERTY? I GUESS NEXT MONTH? OKAY, WELL, THAT'S JUST FOR YOU ALL. MAKE A DECISION. NO OPTION TONIGHT. NO, WE DON'T NEED IT.

OH MY GOSH. WELL, IN ORDER TO BUILD A BUDGET. SO YOU DO WANT OPTIONS. OKAY THEN. YOU THAT'S WHAT I'M. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. I'M LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE HERE. ALRIGHT. AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK. OBVIOUSLY FOR WHAT'S THE RESPONSIBLE OPTION. BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE RESPONSIBLE. OPTION ONE Y'ALL ALREADY APPROVED LAST BUDGET, SO YOU WOULDN'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING. IF YOU CHOSE TO GO TO OPTION TWO, THEN YOU WOULD NEED TO BECAUSE OPTION ONE ON THE WATER AND SEWER YOU ALREADY APPROVED LAST BUDGET IN OCTOBER, IT WAS APPROVED. IT JUST WASN'T IMPLEMENTED. SO WE WOULD IMPLEMENT OPTION ONE IN OCTOBER AND YOU WOULD NEED TO TAKE NO ACTION, RIGHT? OPTION TWO, YOU WOULD NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, BECAUSE THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE. YES, SIR. IT'S LIKE ASKING YOU IF HOME FOR BED OR A VAN I WANT TO. MY CONCERN IS IF WE GO WITH OPTION ONE WE'RE GOING TO BE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, WE MIGHT BE BELOW BECAUSE OUR EXPECTED REVENUES AREN'T THERE. WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR. YES I KNOW OPTION TWO IS A GREATER HIT, BUT IT GIVES US WHERE WE'RE SHOULD BE TODAY RATHER THAN CARRYING IT OUT. AND THEN I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I CAN I MEAN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH OPTION TWO. I KNOW A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS MAY HAVE HEARTBURN OVER IT. IF YOU GO SLIGHTLY MORE AGGRESSIVE TODAY THAN LATER ON, YOU COULD GO SLIGHTLY LESS AGGRESSIVE. IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION. SO THAT'S MY $0.02 ON ON THESE, YOU KNOW OPTION TWO. BUT EVERYBODY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT. NOBODY'S GETTING RAISES THAT'S FOR SURE. YOU KNOW TAXES GO UP BUT NO RAISES. YOU WANT SAFE DRINKING WATER. YOU WANT TO FLUSH YOUR TOILET. YOU GOT TO PAY FOR IT. SO I MEAN, IT AIN'T GETTING CHEAPER. WE'VE GOT TO BUY OUR WATER FROM DALLAS. WE DO THIS TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM. I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE RATES ARE DETERMINED BY CORPORATIONS OUT OF OUR CONTROL. DALLAS WATER UTILITIES, NORTH TEXAS MUNICIPAL WATER. I NEED A

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STORMWATER. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT SO WE CAN GO TO WATER AND SEWER FIRST? IF YOU TURN BACK TO PAGE SEVEN ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE PERCENTAGE OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE USING TO PAY DALLAS AND NORTH TEXAS. WHICH NUMBER ARE YOU ON PAGE SEVEN. SO 55% OF OUR WASTEWATER BUDGET GOES TO NORTH TEXAS ON THE FEES THAT WE'RE COLLECTING, 55% OF THAT'S GOING TO THEM. AND THEN 29 ON DWU. THAT LEAVES VERY LITTLE FOR REPAIRS. YEAH. AND THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING ABOUT HOW THE REST OF THE BUDGET, IF YOU WANTED THE REST OF THE BUDGET TO COME IN AT 9%, THEN YOU HAVE TO REALLY UNDERSHOOT AND COME IN AT LIKE 3.4% IN ORDER TO AVERAGE OUT TO THE 9%, RIGHT? IF WE YOU KNOW WHICH. I MEAN, I KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY. OPTION TWO I DON'T KNOW. SO HAD WE IMPLEMENTED THIS A WHILE BACK THEN, WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS ISSUE, CORRECT? CORRECT. I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE INCREASES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE AS MUCH AS OPTION TWO, BUT WE WOULD HAVE HAD AN INCREASE. BUT IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL WAS STILL PRESENT, THAT'S THAT'S NOW WHEN THIS FIRST COME UP, WE'VE DONE LIKE A QUARTER AND THOUGHT WE WAS GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME. AND THEN THERE WAS SOMETHING WE THOUGHT WAS REALLY DOING GOOD. AND NOW WE DIDN'T GO UP ENOUGH. SO BUT OUR EXPENSES, WE GOT TO CATCH UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON FOR TODAY. WE'VE HAD SOME BIG EXPENSES ON STORMWATER, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE PROJECT RIGHT NOW, TWO THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD SOON. PEOPLE THAT ARE ON INCOME, FIXED INCOME. AND I GET IT, I GET IT, I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND RIGHT. IT'S UP TO Y'ALL. UNLESS CARRIE WANTS ME TO VOICE, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL. WATER AND WASTEWATER. RIGHT? YEAH.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WATER AND WASTEWATER THE FIRST TIME. GIVE ME AN IDEA WHAT OPTION WE WANT TO GO WITH. I WANT TO FOR ME. I DO IT. WE MIGHT AS WELL DO IT TO GET IT GOING. AND WATER AND WASTEWATER WE GOT. WHAT'D YOU SAY? 16. I'LL GIVE YOU THE COMPARISONS OF OPTION 1 OR 2000.

LET'S JUST DO 5000. 60% OF OUR CUSTOMERS FALL IN THE 5000. SO 17 YOU'RE LOOKING AT OPTION ONE WOULD BE A $9 INCREASE VERSUS $11 INCREASE. SO $3 $3 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND TWO FOR I MEAN IT'S LESS THAN A STARBUCKS COFFEE. PEOPLE GIVE $12 FOR COFFEE. GO UP $3.

IF YOU DO IT BY OUNCES. YOU'RE GETTING BETTER ON THE WATER. SO. SO GO FOR TWO. OKAY, SO OPTION ONE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH OPTION TWO HOW ABOUT YOU. OPTION ONE GIVES US A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE TO WORK WITH WHEN WE HAVE TWO. DOESN'T REALLY GIVE US SPACE. IT JUST IT'S OUR CATCH UP TIMES LONGER. RIGHT. BUT IF GO TO OPTION ONE IS GOING TO BE CATCH UP ONE, OPTION TWO GETS US CATCH UP TIME. SURE. AND THEN SOME. YEAH. WHAT'D YOU SAY? SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT, MR. EPPS. WHAT OPTION DID YOU SAY? I DIDN'T SAY YET. YOU DIDN'T SAY. YOU WANT TO SAY? I REALLY HATED TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON A FIXED INCOME. AND I UNDERSTAND WE DO HAVE TO GET CAUGHT UP WITH THIS SINCE IT HASN'T BEEN YET IMPLEMENTED. SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO WITH TWO TWO. WE GOT A UNANIMOUS FOR TWO ON WATER AND SEWER. I MEAN WATER AND WASTEWATER. AND WE NEED TO DO STORMWATER. YEAH. WHERE IS IT AT? THAT WOULD BE PAGE 29. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT 30. THE FIRST OPTION IS 35. THIS PAGE 36 GIVES YOU 36. YEAH 34 AND 36 GIVE YOU THE OPTION RATE. SO YOU'RE

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NIGHTTIME READING. OH YEAH. I DECIDE IF I WANT TO FLUSH OR NOT. IS THAT WHAT IT IS? IT'S ACTUALLY FOR GAIL TO BE ABLE TO INPUT IT. A THIRD TIME. ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. THANK Y'ALL.

THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. YEAH THANK YOU SIR THANK YOU I USED TO DO THAT. WE'RE MOVING TO ITEM

[6. Discuss General Fund and Water & Sewer Budget Items for FY 2026.]

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THE. I BELIEVE THE CUSTOMER PORTAL IS SOMETHING NEW SINCE WE MOVED OVER TO TYLER, AND IT ALLOWS THE CUSTOMER TO GO ON AND SEE THEIR USAGE, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT IMPLEMENTED IN OUR NEXT BUDGET. ALSO, THERE'S INCREASE FOR WATER METERS TO ADD NEW WATER METERS AS HOUSES COME ON, THEY NEED ADDITIONAL METERS. CHRIS HAS ALSO ASKED FOR A METER READER AND AN ADMIN ASSISTANT IN HIS BUDGET. IT'S A TWO METER READER, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE TWO METER READERS, JIMMY WYBLE AND. JOSEPH. IT'S JOSEPH JOSEPH MILLER. AND JT IS CURRENTLY OUR WATER QUALITY GUY TOO, SO HE TAKES ALL OF OUR SAMPLES AND OUR LAST T-C-E-Q INSPECTION, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SEPARATE OUR SAMPLES OUT. WE'RE CURRENTLY TAKING THEM TWICE A MONTH AND WE NEED TO BE TAKING THEM WEEKLY INSTEAD. SO THAT'S A TRIP TO TYLER. AND IF WE HAVE A BAD SAMPLE, THAT'S ANOTHER TRIP TO TYLER TO RESAMPLE. SO WHAT WE PLAN ON DOING IS HAVING TWO METER READERS AND HAVING JT AS A SUPERVISOR LIKE HE CURRENTLY IS, AND GIVING HIM A. LOT OF CUSTOMER CUSTOMERS BREAKING THE LINES, OR HOMEBUILDERS ULTIMATELY BREAKING THE METER AND A LOT OF REPLACEMENTS. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE FUNDS FOR THE METER. READERS ALSO REPLACE THE TRANSMITTERS. YEAH, FOR THE RADIOS, WHETHER IT'S A CUT WIRE, SOMEONE HIT IT WITH A LAWNMOWER AND BROKE IT. OR BREAKING FROM. WHAT'S HAPPENING IS ULTIMATELY THE WATER QUALITY POSITION IS BECOMING MORE OF A JOB. AND IT'S NOT THE. FIVE HOURS A WEEK. SO WE. CHANGE METER READER TO METER TECHNICIAN OR SOMETHING. IT'S AN HOUR METER SERVICE METER. THERE YOU GO. IT'S ACTUALLY METER SERVICE. I WAS LIKE, WHY DO WE NEED A METER READER IF THESE THINGS ARE TRANSMITTING METER DATA MAINTENANCE TO DO WITH THEM? OKAY. GOTCHA. HEY, REAL QUICK, JUST ABOVE THAT, WHERE WE JUST CAME FROM, WHERE IT SAYS INCREASED WATER METERS FROM 193 TO 93, DID YOU SAY THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY HAS TWO METERS. IS I HIT THAT CORRECT OR IS THAT ONE METER. NO. SO THIS IS TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE METERS OKAY. SO CURRENTLY WE PURCHASE I THINK IT'S 100,000IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET, WHICH IS ABOUT 500M A YEAR. AND WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THAT. SO THIS IS JUST GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF BREATHING ROOM WHENEVER THEY'RE ON BACKORDER, AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THEM. SO YOU HAVE THIS EXTRA MONEY IN THERE. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A FEW BIGGER METERS THAT WE DIDN'T CHANGE OUT WHEN WE DID THIS SYSTEM BECAUSE THEY WERE THIS TYPE OF METER THAT WE WERE BUYING. AND WHENEVER WE INSTALLED THE NEW RADIOS ON THEM, THEY WEREN'T PROGRAMED PROPERTIES PROPERLY. SO THESE METERS HAVE WENT OUT OF SERVICE. SO WE'RE MANUALLY READING THESE, SOME OF THE INCREASES TO COVER THE EXTRA RESIDENTIAL METERS. AND SOME OF IT IS TO COVER THE REPLACEMENT COST OF THESE BIGGER METERS THAT WE HAVE. ON PROPERTIES LIKE CREEKSIDE MOBILE HOME PROPERTY. AND TO MAKE IT WHERE IT'S A RADIO READ WHERE WE CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WHAT'S GOING ON EVERY HOUR VERSUS HAVING TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT THERE ONCE A MONTH.

GREAT QUESTION. CREEKSIDE. DO THEY HAVE ONE METER THAT FEEDS THE WHOLE COMPLEX? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE READING. IS THAT ONE MAIN METER. YEAH. AND WE'RE MANUALLY READING IT AND IT'S IN A VAULT THAT STAYS FULL OF WATER BECAUSE WHERE IT'S AT. RIGHT. SO WITH THIS. $8,000 TO REPLACE THAT ONE METER ALONE. WE CHARGE. WHEN SOMEONE TEARS UP METERS, WE DO CHARGE WHEN THEY TEAR UP. IN THE PAST, WHEN PATRICK WAS HERE, HE ALLOWED ME TO USE THE MONEY THAT THEY WERE PAYING TO GO BACK INTO THE BUDGET. AND I UNDERSTAND GAIL'S REASONING BEHIND IT, AND SHE DOESN'T ALLOW THAT ANYMORE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M INCREASING THIS UP. IN THE PAST, I WAS ABLE TO PURCHASE, SAY, 200M CUSTOMERS BUYING THE METERS AND THEN PURCHASE MORE METERS. BUT THE REVENUES AND EXPENSES ACROSS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS THE PROPER WAY TO DO THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING TO INCREASE IT. JUST CUZ I LIKE THE COMPLIANCE. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. ALSO, CHRIS ASKED FOR AN ADMIN ASSISTANT. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT AT ALL, OR JUST KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING

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OKAY. ONE SEAGOVILLE ROAD TO THE ROAD PUMP STATION THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING BEING ENGINEERED. POSSIBLY AWARD OTHER ONE WITHIN THIS BUDGET TO BE DONE ALSO. BUT SINCE WE DIDN'T EVEN FINISH THE ENGINEERING AND TAKE THE OTHER ENGINEERING PROJECT ON ITS FEET AND GOING, I'LL HAVE THE ENGINEERS START THE OTHER. LET'S SEE, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT? INCREASE IN SOFTWARE FOR CUSTOMER PORTAL AND TYLER TECH ANNUAL FEES. ALSO A PORTABLE GENERATOR FOR EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. IT'S 190,000 AND A BACKHOE WITH TRADE IN WHICH WAS 120,000. ALSO ENGINEERING FOR 175 LIFT STATION. THE TWO YEAR PROJECT FOR ENGINEERING, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS 500,000 THE FIRST YEAR AND 860,000. THIS IS THAT TOTAL OH 860 TOTAL. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO HE HE DID THROW IN ENGINEERING ON A NEW SERVICE CENTER WHICH THE THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED BOND TO PAY FOR A NEW SERVICE CENTER. WHAT DO THE X'S UNDER NUMBER. ALL THE OTHERS HAVE. OH THAT MEANS HE DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY PAPERWORK. HE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT. AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THEY WERE ULTIMATELY WISHES IN MY EYES, SO I DIDN'T ADD THEM. ONE OF THE NEW SERVICE CENTER WAS ULTIMATELY PAT'S WISH TO GET INTO THIS BUDGET, WHICH I KNEW WASN'T FEASIBLE. SO THAT'S WHY IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER.

AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WERE ADDED LATER ON. I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. I DIDN'T ASK ANYTHING OUT OF CHRIS'S BUDGET. I DIDN'T HAVE HIS NUMBERS YET FOR TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO FOR REVENUES. BUT BUT NOW THAT I KNOW WE CAN, WE CAN START ASKING SOME STUFF OUT, IF YOU LIKE. IT'S ALL BUILT INTO THE RATE STUDY. I MEAN, THEY'RE SELF-FUNDED, SO. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. SAY NO WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BRINGING IN AND THAT THAT'S ALL FOR THE WATER AND SEWER. SO I GUESS CHRIS AND I WILL GET TOGETHER AND DECIDE WHICH ONE OF THESE WILL GO IN BASED ON THE RATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE TO SEE WHICH ONE OF THESE CAN BE BUDGETED FOR THIS. HE HAS NO ADMIN ASSISTANT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? CURRENTLY, I HAVE A NIECE WHO'S THE ADMIN ASSISTANT, BUT SHE'S ON HER WAY OUT. SHE MAYBE THAT'S OKAY. I WANT TO GET SOMEBODY IN AND TRAIN SO I'M NOT LEFT WITHOUT. ULTIMATELY WE WOULD HAVE TWO POSITIONS POTENTIALLY. BUT MY GOAL IS TO GO BACK TO ONE POSITION AFTER SHE DOES RETIRE. MAY SHE DOES E.

EVERY DAY SHE DOES. SHE'S 27 YEARS IN. SO YEAH OKAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S IT FOR WATER AND SEWER.

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THERE IS A HTML ESTIMATED INCREASE OF $12,000 THIS YEAR. OUR WORKER'S COMP. WENT DOWN, BUT THE REST OF OUR INSURANCE WENT UP. SO IT KIND OF EVENED OUT TO ONLY $12,000. WE WERE EXPECTING A LOT MORE, WHICH I BELIEVE NEXT YEAR IT WILL PROBABLY GO GO UP MORE BECAUSE OF THE AUTOMOBILES, I BELIEVE. IS THAT CORRECT? CINDY? OKAY, SO THIS INCLUDES THE HEALTH INSURANCE? NO, THIS IS THE GENERAL LIABILITY WORKER'S COMP AND CYBER SECURITY. YEAH. THE CITY COUNCIL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING INCREASES IN YOUR BUDGET. THIS WOULD BE THE TIME THAT IF YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR BUDGET, THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THAT AND NORMALLY DOESN'T CHANGE. IS THAT COMING OUT OF BUDGET? THAT'S A NON-DEPARTMENTAL LIKE OUR ATTENDANCE TO HTML THAT DOESN'T COME. OH NO YOU HAVE THAT'S TRAINING AND COUNCIL. GOT THEIR OWN TRAINING. RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE ABOUT 10,000 $10,000 BUDGET. BUT I DIDN'T PUT ANY INCREASES.

YEAH. CITY SECRETARY HAS ONE LINE ITEM INCREASE FOR ELECTION EXPENSES OF $2,000. FINANCE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WOULD BE MY DEPARTMENT INCREASE IN OTHER PROFESSIONAL FEES FOR THE AUDIT INCREASE. INCREASE IN COUNTY APPRAISAL FEES. AND THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO ADD UNIFORMS BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD UNIFORMS. SO FOR WE HAVE ONE SPECIAL DAY WE CAN HAVE WHERE OUR T SHIRTS, WHICH IS $300. AND THEN THE INCREASE IN SOFTWARE SUPPORT BECAUSE OF OUR NEW SOFTWARE SYSTEM. NEXT PAGE WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DEPARTMENT. OH YEAH, SHE'S HERE. SO MAMATA HAS AN INCREASE IN MINOR EQUIPMENT FOR DAILY EQUIPMENT AND TOOLS USED FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, INCREASE IN DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS FROM 300 TO 2000 FOR RENEWAL OF THE CODE OFFICERS LICENSE AND RENEWAL OF THE ANNUAL GPS SUBSCRIPTION. ALSO, AN INCREASE IN EDUCATION, TRAVEL AND TRAINING FOR SUE FOR THREE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. CLASS REGISTRATION INCREASE IN CONTRACTUAL CONTRACTUAL EXPENSES TO PAY MONTHLY STORAGE FEES, CODE ENFORCEMENT SIGNS, TAGS, DOOR HANGERS, ETC. INCREASE IN OTHER CONTRACT MAINTENANCE FOR GOOD EARTH MOWING CONTRACT INCREASE IN UNIFORMS FOR THREE CODE OFFICERS AND A POTENTIAL CODE SUPERVISOR. INCREASE IN FILING FEES WITH DALLAS COUNTY FOR UPPER LIENS. OVERTIME PAY FOR A MAXIMUM OF ABOUT 120 HOURS TO COVER WORK THAT'S DONE ON SATURDAY. I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT GETTING PAID OVERTIME FOR THAT, THEY'RE GETTING COMP TIME AND THEY'RE NOT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO USE THEIR COMP TIME. YEAH. WAS THAT A 120 HOURS A YEAR A YEAR. YES OKAY. THAT'S AN OPTION IF THEY WANT TO USE. ALSO SOFTWARE SUPPORT FOR TYLER TECH. I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NUMBER NINE AND NUMBER 13, I THINK I DUPLICATED BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO INCREASE IT TO 7972. SO WHICH NUMBER YOU WANT. NUMBER 13. SO WE CAN CROSS OUT NUMBER NINE. ALSO MAMATA IS ASKING FOR A CODE ENFORCEMENT SUPERVISOR IN HER DEPARTMENT. I BELIEVE SHE HAS THREE. IS IT THREE CODE OFFICERS RIGHT NOW. AND SHE NEEDS SOMEONE THAT CAN BE A SUPERVISOR FOR THAT DEPARTMENT. THAT COULD COME IN WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MORE EXPERIENCE AND TIME TO, YOU KNOW, AND SUPERVISE THAT GROUP.

OKAY. SO. I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE A TOTAL OF THREE VEHICLES. MARTA. YES, ONE OF THEM'S DOWN.

CORRECT. THREE OF THEM ARE WORKING. I'M ASKING FOR ONE. BECAUSE THAT ONE IS HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THE. YES, ONE IS RIGHT. OKAY. WE NEVER REPLACED THAT ONE, DID WE? OKAY. I THINK THERE'S LIKE 11, RIGHT. THERE'S TWO VEHICLES IN THIS. AND LIKE I SAID WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE FLEET OKAY. SO I DIDN'T PUT THOSE IN THE FUNDING YET. THE VEHICLES ARE ALL GOING TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH THE ENTERPRISE LEASE THING. RIGHT. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THERE WAS NO

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THE ONLY. OKAY, OKAY. SO ONCE WE START BUDGETING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ENHANCED SERVICES WITH THAT INCREASE. GREAT. OKAY. THE NEXT TWO DEPARTMENTS ARE CHRIS CHRIS HAS A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS TO. SO CHRIS HAS ASKED FOR AN INCREASE IN OVERTIME DUE TO ADDITION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND PAY RAISES I GUESS. I DO KNOW THAT THEY WORK OVERTIME A LOT. INCREASE IN SPECIAL EVENT SUPPLIES TO FUND MOVIES, KID FISH, FIREWORKS AND TREE LIGHTING FROM 7000 TO 20,000. HE'S ALSO ASKING FOR A NEW SIDE BY SIDE FOR PARK EVENTS AND SPRAYING, AND THEN A PA SYSTEM FOR THE FOOTBALL FIELD AT CENTRAL PARK. HE ALSO REQUESTED THREE BASEBALL FIELDS LIGHTING FOR BEARDEN PARK, BUT WE ASKED HIM TO GO BACK AND SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST FOR TWO, SO HE REQUESTED A 415,000 FOR THREE, AND FOR TWO IT WOULD BE $274,600. AND THAT WOULD FIT BETTER IN IN OUR BUDGET. THIS BUDGET. YES. AND TWO WAS HOW MUCH? TWO 274,600. OH OKAY. OKAY. SO HE'S REQUESTING A PA SYSTEM FOR BASEBALL FIELD AT BEARDEN PARK AND INCREASE MOWING FOR TO INCLUDE THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND THE NEW POLICE STATION. ALSO BUDGETED ITEM FOR CENTRAL PARK ELECTRICAL UPGRADES. AND I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT'S FOR WHEN THE VENDORS COME. THEY WILL HAVE MORE OUTLETS TO USE. EXCELLENT. THE FOOTBALL FIELD LIGHTING FOR CENTRAL PARK. WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT IN THIS BUDGET AT THIS TIME. IT WOULD BE UP TO, I GUESS, COUNCIL IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE IT AND WE CAN, WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE SOMETHING ELSE POSSIBLY OUT AND INCLUDE THAT WE MAKE IT A PRIORITY FOR NEXT YEAR OR WHAT'S THE PLAN? I DID REACH OUT TO SISA AND ASK THEM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE. THE BASEBALL AND PLAYING. SO. THERE WAS A PLAN TO DO ONE MORE FIELD NEXT YEAR AND THEN FOOTBALL YEAR AFTER. ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE CARRIED. PROBABLY PROPOSE AGAIN NEXT YEAR. I MEAN, I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO LOSE. THAT ITEM. I MEAN, WE NEED TO TRY TO GET IT DONE WITHIN THE NEXT 3 TO 5 YEARS. YEAH, IT WILL REMAIN ON HERE AS A PRIORITY.

AND AS WE EVALUATE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE'LL LOOK AT THIS AS A PRIORITY FOR THE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I KNOW THE FIELDS ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO YOUR HEART. YEAH. THE BASEBALL FIELDS NEEDED MORE. BUT THE FOOTBALL FIELDS, I MEAN, WE'RE LOST KIDS BECAUSE OF STUFF LIKE THAT. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T EVEN IF YOU WALKED OUT ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD, YOU CAN'T SEE. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT.

RIGHT? THE FOOTBALL FIELD ALSO POSSIBLY BE USED FOR SOCCER IN THE FUTURE AS WELL FOR NIGHT GAMES. THAT'S JUST LONG TERM. BUT I MEAN, I THINK RIGHT NOW, AS LONG AS WE HAVE A PLAN TO GO FORWARD TO FIX LIGHT UP THESE FIELDS, I MEAN, THAT'S FINE WITH THAT. WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THE T-BALL FIELD AND THAT COACH PITCH FIELD BECAUSE THE YELLOW FIELDS KIND OF NEVER USED. SO CURRENTLY WHEN I ASKED HER, I ASKED WHAT FIELDS? SO I STARTED LIKE, YEAH, IT'S GOT GOOD LIGHTING, I'M GOING TO DO THE T-BALL FIELD AND THEN THE COACH PITCH NEXT TO IT, NOT THE ONE NEXT TO IT, THE YELLOW PITCH, THE YELLOW FIELD IN THE BACK. SO THE YELLOW FIELD AND THE RED FIELD, BECAUSE THE RED FIELD'S STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK. THE ONE. YEAH. AND IT'S STILL NEEDS A LOT OF WORK TO, TO GET MORE DIRT. ON 42 OR SOMETHING. YES. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON

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I'M ON THERE AND IT SEEMS TO NOT BE AN ISSUE. UPGRADED SYSTEM THIS. IS REALLY. NOW IT'S JUST ON A TIMER RIGHT? IT'S ON A TIMER AND WE INCREASE THE TIME. THAT WAS KIND OF A ONE TIME EVENT WHEN THAT HAPPENED. EXACTLY. AT TRACTOR SUPPLY THER, AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC TRYING TO GET OUT ON CRESTVIEW. AND THERE WAS A BIG CUT. SO. DOES THE PEDESTRIAN LIGHT WORK, THOUGH I KNOW AN ACCIDENT CAUSED THAT LIGHT. ACTUALLY TALKED TO THE GUY ABOUT THAT AND HE SUGGESTED.

THAT I WALK AND IT'S NOT ADA COMPLIANT, SO. IT WAS IT WAS A HIGH NUMBER LIKE 40 $50,000. SO WHERE CAN OUR PEOPLE FROM THE VILLAS CROSS SAFELY TO WALMART? THEY DON'T HAVE A PROTECTED WALK. NO, THEY DON'T ANYWHERE. THEY DON'T HAVE A PROTECTED WALK AT 175 IN THE SERVICE ROAD RIGHT SYSTEM THAT WAS WAS THERE IN PLACE BEFORE, WAS NOT WORKING EITHER. SO IT WAS THERE.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL REALLY WANT TO SEE. I THINK THAT. BALLPARK WAS 50 TO 40. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CHEAPER AND WHAT'S LEGAL IS A CROSSWALK THERE. CHEAPER TO WEAR A LIGHT WHEN THEY CAN. WHEN THEY'RE READY TO CROSS, THEY CROSS A LIGHT AND IT TURNS YELLOW, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU SEE IN CERTAIN AREAS OF DOWNTOWN AREAS. OR SO THAT WAS SOME OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME TO WORK. TO PUT A 360 CAMERA UP THERE. SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL LET ALL OF MALLOY GO. IF THERE'S NO TRAFFIC ON CRESTVIEW, MY LAWYER IS GOING TO GO BY ITSELF. BUT THE LIGHTS ON ME WILL NEVER TURN UNTIL A CAR COMES UP. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO NOW. BUT THERE'S NO CAMERAS ANYWHERE. TO MAKE THE. THE HANDICAPPED STUFF WORK, YOU HAVE TO DO THE THREE 60 CAMERAS TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO. SO YOU'LL HAVE TO DO THE NUMBERS WE GAVE YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO DO THE. 40 PLUS. THE 40 TO 50? YEAH, PLUS THE 4050 FOR THE FOR THE CROSSWALK. RIGHT. OKAY. I HAVE A LOT OF SMALLER CONCRETE PROJECTS THAT I PLAN ON DOING. IN TOWN OVER HERE. I'VE BEEN

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QUALITY OF LIFE PROJECT. YEAH. MAYBE. YEAH YEAH, I KNOW KIRK, I SEE YOU OVER THERE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING ELSE FOR THAT MONEY, BUT WE HAD OUR HOPES WAY UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND CHRIS HAD ONE MORE THING ON THERE THAT DEFINITELY NOT FUNDED. IT'S A $3 MILLION HAUL ROAD. HAUL ROAD TO 175 AND JUDY LANE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT'S THE WHOLE STREET FROM THE SERVICE ROAD TO JUDY ALL CONCRETE. IT'S CURRENTLY BEING.

THAT'S JUST KIND OF AN ESTIMATE, BUT THAT'S THE ESTIMATE THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW. PERCENT COMPLETED. THEY WILL REPLACE THE ASPHALT TO CONCRETE, NEW CURB AND GUTTER AND EVERYTHING. IT WOULD BE A FULL RECONSTRUCTION. NO SIDEWALK. WOULD. WE MOST LIKELY NEED A BOND FOR THAT ROAD, JUDY. THE BRIDGE AT MALLOY BY THE VILLAS THAT THEY SIDESWIPED A GUARDRAIL. YEAH.

IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO BILL MEDINA'S DEPARTMENT BUILDING INSPECTION AND SERVICES. AND UNDER THE NEW SERVICES, HE'S REQUESTING REMOVAL OF AN ELECTRICAL PANEL AND HAVE ALL PANELS LABELED PROPERLY HERE AT CITY HALL.

ALSO, A CITY HALL ASSESSMENT OF A CRACKED PILLAR FOR STRUCTURAL DAMAGE. I BELIEVE IT'S OUT IN THE FRONT AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? AND WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING IN HERE? THERE'S GOT DAMAGE.

BILL. ALSO, CITY HALL REPLACE BATHROOM PARTITIONS IN ALL BATHROOMS, INCLUDING DOORS, RIGHT? YES. AND BECOME ADA COMPLIANT. YES. OKAY. ALSO REPLACE BLINDS IN THE LIBRARY, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND THE LIBRARY OFFICE. AND I BELIEVE THE RIGHT NOW THERE'S DAMAGE TO THE LIBRARY BOOKS BECAUSE OF THE SUN THROUGH THE WIND WINDOW. ALSO, HE'S ASKING FOR A DISHWASHER FOR THE SENIOR CENTER. THAT'S REQUIRED. YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GO DO THEM YOURSELF. I'LL HAVE TO GET ON THE MODEL FOR THAT ONE. THERE WERE THREE ITEMS THAT HE REQUESTED THAT KERRY AND I DECIDED THAT WE TOOK IT OUT. FOR NOW. THE CITY HALL AWNING FOR THE REAR EXIT. IS NOT FUNDED. A THREE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES BETWEEN CITY HALL ANIMAL SHELTER, INCLUDING A CROSSWALK AND SIDEWALK CONNECTING TO CITY HALL. FRONT ENTRANCE WITH RAMP AT THIS. AT THIS POINT, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET AND THEN A ONE TIME INCREASE IN OTHER PROFESSIONAL FEES FOR $30,000 FOR CONTRACTED PERSONNEL FOR REVIEWS AND INSPECTIONS OF SANTORINI PROJECTS, FOR THIRD PARTY INSPECTORS, OR SPEAKING WITH NFL TEAM. THEY BASICALLY TOLD US TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH THE COST IS GOING TO BE AND THEY'LL OKAY. BACK THERE. SOME OF THE EXISTING SERVICES THAT HE ALREADY HAS, AN INCREASE IN BOOKS AND MAGAZINES FOR UPDATED CODE BOOKS AND INCREASE IN OTHER CONTRACT MAINTENANCE TO ADD THE CONTRACT CONTRACTUAL PRICE FOR THE HVAC MAINTENANCE, THE GENERATOR MAINTENANCE AND PEST CONTROL. AN INCREASE IN SOFTWARE FROM SUPPORT FROM 20 TO 33,000. RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE OPENGOV

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THAT'S MY OPINION. THEN. ALSO, AN INCREASE IN UNIFORMS HE HAS REQUESTED BECAUSE OF WEAR AND TEAR IN HIS PLANNING DEPARTMENT, INCREASE IN DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS TO SUPPORT TWO MEMBERSHIPS TO THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION AND TEXAS CHAPTER, AND THEN AN INCREASE IN EDUCATION, TRAVEL AND TRAINING. SO GET TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. TODD IS ASKING FOR A GENERATOR FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. STATION ONE STATION ONE. GENERATOR STATION ONE FOR MODEL. REASSURED ME EXTENSIVELY AT OTHER MEETINGS AND AN ESTIMATE FROM AN APPARATUS STORAGE AT STATION ONE. AND I BELIEVE, HE SAYS, TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT SO THAT IT WOULD BE COVERED AWAY FROM THE RAIN AND THE WATER SO IT WOULDN'T BE DAMAGED. ALSO, STATION ONE BAY ROOF REPAIRS, SLASH REPLACEMENT. TWO LIFEPAK 15 MONITORS. SO THERE'S THREE PAYMENTS OF 45,000. AND THIS WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET IN DECEMBER ALREADY. ALSO TO REPLACE THE OLDER COMPUTER AND TRUCK ONE. HE HAS REQUESTED THAT THE THREE AUTHORIZED POSITIONS FOR LIEUTENANT. HE HAS THREE LIEUTENANTS. HE WOULD LIKE THEIR POSITIONS TO BE TO MOVE TO CAPTAIN ALL THREE OF THEM, BUT ALSO TO KEEP THE LIEUTENANT POSITIONS FOR WHENEVER HE DOES RECEIVE STAFFING SO THAT HE DOESN'T LOSE THE AUTHORIZED POSITIONS. BUT THEY WON'T BE FUNDED. LIEUTENANT POSITIONS WON'T BE FUNDED UNTIL FILLED. CORRECT. AND THEN. HE REQUESTED FOUR NEW FIREFIGHTERS. WE HAVE AUTHORIZED ONE IN THE BUDGET STARTING OCTOBER THE 1ST. WE HAD SUGGESTED TWO STARTING MID-YEAR, BUT HE PREFERRED TO HAVE ONE STARTING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHICH EQUALS OUT TO THE SAME THING. ALSO IN THE EXISTING SERVICES, AND INCREASE IN OVERTIME FROM 116,000 TO 170,000 TO BE ABLE TO PLACE TWO ENGINES AND A TRUCK IN SERVICE TO INCREASE CAPABILITIES OF MEETING THE NFPA STANDARDS ALSO INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE AND WATER AND GATORADE. INCREASE IN MEDICAL SUPPLIES, FUEL AND LUBRICANTS, VEHICLE EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, JANITORIAL SUPPLIES. MOST OF THIS IS DUE TO INCREASED COST, INCREASE IN COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE, BUILDING MAINTENANCE, OTHER CONTRACT MAINTENANCE, AND THEN IN THE BOOK THEY EACH EACH DIRECTOR FEELS OUT THESE INCREASED SERVICE LEVEL FORMS. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK THROUGH THEY'LL HAVE LIKE THE REASONS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE INCREASES. YES. SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS. SO TRAVEL AND TRAINING, DATA PROCESSING IN THE SOFTWARE SUPPORT. ANIMAL SERVICES. AS AS FOR AN INCREASE IN OFFICE SUPPLIES. THEY HAVE MOVED. THEY ARE MOVING TO THE NEW ANIMAL SHELTER. SO THEY WILL NEED ADDITIONAL ITEMS. IT'S A IT'S A BIGGER AREA AREA. SO THE ONLY OFFICE SUPPLIES SUBSISTENCE TO SUPPLY NUTRITIONAL NEEDS TO THE DOGS AND CATS. INCREASE IN CHEMICALS FOR PURCHASE OF VACCINES AND OTHER MEDICAL NEEDS. INCREASE IN UNIFORMS. INCREASE IN SAFETY EQUIPMENT FOR ANIMAL SERVICES TO PURCHASE CATCHPOLE'S SAFETY GLOVES, TRAPS, ETC. MISCELLANEOUS SUPPLIES SUPPLIES TO PURCHASE MICROCHIPS AND OTHER ESSENTIAL SUPPLIES. JANITORIAL SUPPLIES. MINOR EQUIPMENTS. THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE. PROFESSIONAL

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NEED A FULL TIME POSITION THERE. YEAH I MEAN I'M FINE WITH THE TWO TWO NOW AND ONE IN APRIL, BUT I JUST THEY EITHER NEED TO BE FULL OR ALL PART I DON'T WANT I DON'T THINK UNLESS YOU GET TWO PART TIME TO FILL IN THE ONE, BUT OKAY. I THINK FULL WOULD PROBABLY GET A BETTER. THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASE IN EDUCATION, TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND THEN THE ELECTRICITY DUE TO THE NEW FACILITY. SO OUR NEXT DEPARTMENT IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY'RE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN AMMUNITION, INCREASE IN JANITORIAL TO SUPPLIES FROM 3000 TO 16,003 50. AND THAT'S TO INCLUDE JANITORIAL SERVICE. I BELIEVE IT WILL CLEAN THE NEW POLICE STATION AND THE OLD POLICE STATION. NO. OH, JUST THE NEW POLICE STATION. ALSO, AN INCREASE IN OTHER MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES TO INCLUDE MAINTENANCE OF THE DRONES, INCREASE IN FORENSIC ANALYSIS TO KEEP UP WITH MANDATES FROM DALLAS COUNTY DA REQUIRING FORENSIC ANALYSIS ON EVERY FELONY NARCOTICS STOP.

I GUESS CASE. OKAY. AND INCREASE IN CONTRACTUAL EXPENSE TO COVER INCREASED COSTS FOR REGIONAL TACTICAL TACTICAL TEAM ANNUAL DUES. ALSO AN INCREASE IN CELL PHONE, OTHER APPROVED EXPENSES FOR DRINKING WATER, COFFEE CREAMERS AND OTHER UNCLASSIFIED PURCHASES, AND INCREASE IN FUEL AND LUBRICANTS. AND THAT'S FOR THE EXISTING SERVICES. FOR THE NEW SERVICES THEY WERE REQUESTING FOR SWORN POLICE OFFICERS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO FUND TWO POSITIONS STARTING AT MID-YEAR. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE CURRENTLY OPEN POSITIONS? THREE. FOUR, FOUR. IS IT FOUR? THOSE ARE OPEN NOW AND THEN TWO WILL COME UP. WE FILL THOSE TWO WILL COME UP IN APRIL. YES. ALSO THE VEHICLES ASKING FOR SIX VEHICLES WHICH THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED. AND. YES. AND THEN THE TWO DRONES WERE INCLUDED. BUT AS WE WERE TALKING TO CHIEF RAY, HE SAID THAT THEY COULD PURCHASE THOSE OUT OF THE ASSET FORFEITURE ACCOUNT. THEY PROBABLY NEED A COUPLE THOUSAND MORE TO PUT ON TO THAT. WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN? DO WE NEED TO? SO THE DRONES MAY OR MAY NOT BE PURCHASED? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? IT'S THE CELL PHONE TECHNOLOGY. THEY'RE THEY'RE.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. SO ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WE'RE GOING TO GET THESE TWO NEW DRONES.

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW. SO THAT'S THE DJI TECHNOLOGY IN MY OPINION. IF YOU'RE CONCERNED

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SO WE'RE NOT FUNDING THE DRONES. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YEAH. WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY. YEAH, OKAY.

OKAY. BUT. I ASKED THAT QUESTION OF I'M NOT FLYING THE DRONES. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FAIR. OH, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE THE DRONES. WE JUST WANT TO HAVE DRONES. WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. I THINK IT'S AN ANSWER BY LIEUTENANT. SO. OKAY.

KIND OF. I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE GOING TO DO WITH THE TECHNOLOGY. IF THEY'RE GOING TO PROHIBIT THE EXISTING TECHNOLOGY PLATFORM WE USE OR NOT. OKAY. AND IT'S HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT THEY WILL. AND THEN DEPENDING ON THAT, WE THEN LOOKING AT THE COST AS WELL. OKAY. GOT YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE LAST THING ON THAT IS THE AXON.

AXON PRESENTATION THAT THEY PRESENTED. WE CARRIE AND I DECIDED TO FUND IT AS A ONE TIME THIS TIME. BUT IT WOULD GO IN THE ONGOING FOR THE NEXT BUDGET, WHICH WE WOULD REDUCE. IT WOULD REDUCE THE FUND BALANCE THIS TIME, BUT IT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OPERATING CASH WE WOULD HAVE FOR OUR NEXT BUDGET. SO IS IT TOO EARLY TO SAY WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR OR TEN YEAR? WE BUDGETED THE FIVE YEAR NUMBER. YES, WE BUDGETED THE FIVE YEAR NUMBER. BUT ULTIMATELY COUNCIL CAN MAKE A DECISION. I MEAN, I WANT TO I MEAN, I WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR US. I MEAN THE BEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK AS FAR. BUT IT'S GOING TO GIVE THEM THE OPTIMAL, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED. THEY'VE GONE DOWN. SO THEY I HAD A NUMBER OF 362 AND THEY'VE GONE DOWN TO TWO, TWO, 5253 AND 280. THEY SAID THEY WENT WAY DOWN. AND WHAT THAT IS TEN YEARS. BUT IT'S 2.5 VERSUS 3.4. THAT'S THE WHOLE HARDWARE REPLACEMENT. REPLACEMENT AFTER FIVE YEARS WHERE OUR PAGES WILL GET REPLACED. BODY CAMERAS, CAMERAS AFTER FIVE YEARS. IF YOU DO THE TEN YEAR, TEN YEAR PROGRAM, THE PRICE IS UP AND YOU KNOW HOW TECHNOLOGY IS GOING. SO AFTER TEN YEARS, YOU KIND OF RENEWED. SO YOU'D HAVE THIS MAJOR, THIS. MAJOR. I'M TRYING TO CONTROL DEVICES FOR FIVE YEARS. I MEAN, I THINK IF THEY RECOMMEND TEN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH TEN. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IS CHEAPER. WE HAVE NOT SEEN THOSE NUMBERS. I MEAN, SO DEPENDING ON. CAME UP WITH THEM TODAY. I'M SORRY. COULD YOU WRITE THE NUMBER. YEAH. HE SAID THEY WENT WAY, WAY DOWN I THINK. YEAH. BECAUSE THEY ORIGINALLY SAID 362 AND THE FIVE AND TEN ARE WAY UNDER THAT AMOUNT. YEAH. REALLY WANTED TO WORK WITH US. 250 333 98 THERE'S A LOT OF FINE PRINT

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WELL, LIFEGUARD. THERE'S A LOT OF AGENCIES BECAUSE OF ALL THE. ALL THE STATE. AGENCIES. YEAH.

ALL THE STATE. IT'S JUST. NOW THERE IS SEVEN OF THESE BODY CAMERAS. OF WHO'S. THE OLD ONE.

OKAY. YEAH. SO, CHRISTINE, FROM A RECORD STANDPOINT, CLOUD VERSUS ARD SERVER. I MEAN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE CLOUD? VERY MUCH. AND IT'S SECURE. IT SEEMS JUST. COMPLIANCE OKAY. ALL THAT THE DIFFERENCE THEY DID WAS. ALSO WITH THE CLOUD WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE SERVER. WE WENT TO IN 2022. IT WASN'T EVEN A YEAR LATER THAT WE HAD. NOT ONE BUT TWO OF THEM.

AND IT TOOK US DOWN FOR TWO WEEKS. THOSE ARE OUR BODY CAMS. THOSE ARE OUR DASH CAMS, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT AS POINTS RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TWO BUILDINGS WITH THE NEWER EQUIPMENT THAT MOTOROLA IS PUSHING OUT. WE CAN'T HAVE THEM READ THAT. AND THESE AND THESE CANDIDATES, THESE CAMERAS ARE MANDATORY, CORRECT? YES, SIR. IT REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE THAT. WE HAVE BODY CAMERAS ACTIVATED. REASONS WHY YOU. HAVE ALL OF OUR CONTACTS IN THE FIELD. WE HAVE SOME WE LOOK DOWN AND IT'S IN A RECOVERY MODE FAILURE. I MEAN, WE CAN'T STOP ALL TIME OUT. RIGHT NOW, BUT IF MY BODY. BUT WE HAVE TO. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO REPORT THAT IN OFFICIAL. CASE SO THAT. ALL ALL OF OUR VIDEO. SO IF THAT'S NOT RECORDING, THERE'S A CAR RECORDING BUT IT'S OUTSIDE IDEALLY. YES SIR. BUT I GOTCHA. SERGEANT GRAHAM SAYS THESE OPERATE AS THE MICROPHONES FOR OUR IN-CAR CAMERAS. YEAH. YOU DON'T HAVE AUDIO. OKAY. ALL YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO BE IN FRONT OF THE VEHICLE. OKAY. YEAH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE NO AUDIO EITHER. RIGHT NOW. IT'S ALL OVER. ALL THE WAY. WE HAVE IT. WELL, WE HAVE AN OPEN RECORDS REQUEST ACTIONS, BECAUSE REDACTIONS MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE CERTAIN INFORMATION. BUT. THE PRIVACY SPACES DUE TO PRIVACY.

WELL, THE WAY THE SYSTEM IS RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TO LITERALLY CUT OUT PORTIONS OF THE VIDEOS, OKAY? BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A DRIVER'S LICENSE IN FRONT, THINGS LIKE THAT, VEHICLE LICENSE PLATES, THAT KIND OF THING. SO MANY DIFFERENT QUESTION. THE INTEGRITY ARE WE IN THE HEISMAN OR WHAT. RIGHT. WITH THE AXON THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BLUR OUT THE LICENSE PLATES.

THEY CAN BLUR OUT. OR OUT EVEN AUDIO. THEY CAN BLEEP OUT WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO REMOVE ANY OF THE VIDEO. AND IT'S LESS TIME CONSUMING AND IT'S EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I HAVE TO REVIEW IF THERE'S THREE OFFICERS ON SCENE, LET'S SAY THE RED AND THEY'RE OUT THERE FOR A GOOD HOUR, THAT'S THREE HOURS JUST FOR THE BODY AND THREE HOURS FOR THE DASH CAM THAT I HAVE TO REVIEW THAT SIX HOURS. THAT'S A LONG TIME. YEAH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE RIGHT ALONG. OKAY. SO MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE'VE. INCLUDE THE POLICE. SUPPORT SERVICES. SO WE GOT AN INCREASE IN SOFTWARE SUPPORT FOR MOTOROLA GMRS DRONE SENSE ALSO INCLUDING UNSOLVED CODE RED THAT USED TO BE PAID OUT OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S EMERGENCY. MANAGEMENT FUND. SO PART OF THAT IS AN ONGOING EXPENSE OF 101 003. IF THE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AND THEN THERE'S A ONE TIME PART FOR THE HARDWARE, IS THAT CORRECT? NO. OKAY. YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT PART OKAY. THIS IS WHERE. IT'S A. I COME IN FOR. THEY'VE GONE TO A THREE YEAR PLAN WHERE

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OKAY. THIS IS FOR THE RADIOS. IS FOR RADIOS. YES, SIR. SO THAT OTHER COMPANY DOESN'T DO THE RADIOS UNFORTUNATELY NOT. SO. BUT ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. ONCE EVERY THREE YEARS. OKAY, SO 209 TODAY. AND THEN WE WON'T GET ANOTHER BILL UNTIL THREE MORE YEARS. THAT 209 INCLUDES OTHER ITEMS. YEAH. IT'S THE 108 ONE 108 TODAY. OKAY. AND THE 101 IS FOR THE OTHER ITEMS. GOT IT.

OKAY. AWAY FROM MOTOROLA. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THEN THE USB SCANNER. 16,500 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO CLAIM THAT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL. THE PRINTER. MENTALICS. IS THAT THE ONE OR.

OH NO. IT'S OUR FINGERPRINTS. SO LET'S LOOK AT OUR SUPPORT SERVICES. SO THAT IS IT. I'M SORRY. YES. MENTALICS. WE HAVE TO DO AN UPGRADE ON IT. SO. WE HAVE TO DO AN UPGRADE FOR THOSE.

ITEMS AND UPGRADES. ALL THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE. SO YOU NEED UPGRADE SCANNING FINGERPRINTS. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. SO FINGERPRINT BIOMETRICS DOUBLES YOUR INFORMATION. AND IT DOES INCLUDE THE HARDWARE ON THAT TOO. SO OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO INCREASE IN SUBSTANCE SUBSISTENCE INCREASE. OH AND THEN REQUESTING TWO JAILERS AND WE HAVE WE HAVE FUNDING FOR ONE JAILER TO START APRIL 1ST. BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE BELIEVE THAT THE SUPPORTS SERVICES BUILDING WILL BE READY. ALSO THERE WAS A REQUEST OF A POSITION OF ADMIN COORDINATOR. IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT POSITION WITH THAT DOES SO. ONE MORE PERSON. EXCELLENT STUFF. I'M NO LONGER IN THE RECORDS AREA. I'M I'M IN MY OWN OFFICE NOW. SO THAT IS. ALSO BACKGROUNDS FOR PERSONS. AND IF YOU NOTICE LIKE IT TAKES A GOOD MONTH TO GO THROUGH SOMEONE'S BED. SO. IN ORDER TO GET SOMEBODY. TO BE SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO THE FINANCIAL PORTION. BACKGROUNDS ALSO HELP US WITH THE. BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO OUR OWN REGULAR DUTIES. THERE WAS ALSO THREE ADDITIONAL DISPATCHERS IN THE ADMIN ASSISTANT POSITION FOR SID. THAT WAS NOT FUNDED IN THIS BUDGET YET, OR I BELIEVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOU DO HAVE LIKE EIGHT DISPATCHERS, AM I CORRECT, SEVEN DISPATCHERS, SEVEN AND THE SUPERVISOR. I THOUGHT WE COUNTED EIGHT. THAT'S WHY WE COUNTED 8 TO 7. TO GO BACK AND CONFIRM. I THOUGHT WE COUNTED EIGHT. YEAH. WE'LL GO BACK AND CONFIRM. OTHER THINGS THAT. THAT THAT'S REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET IS THE FLEET SERVICES, WHICH WAS 380,000, PART OF IT TO BE PAID BY THE WATER AND SEWER, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE RECEIVING VEHICLES. ALSO, THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT

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YES. AND THE LAST PAGE, OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE ASKED IN THE BUDGET WE ARE GOING TO FUND OUT OF A DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT HAVE THEIR OWN SOURCE OF REVENUE INCREASE IN SOFTWARE SUPPORT FOR FUND 36, WHICH IS THE COURT. MULCH FOR THE PLAYGROUND AND DIRT FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS IS FUND 38. WE HAVE A PARK FUND. WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PARK FUNDS THAT WERE ONE WAS SET UP BEFORE I GOT HERE. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE SET UP FOR PARKS THAT ARE WITHIN THE AREA OF A DEVELOPMENT, AND MOST OF OUR PARKS ARE IN PROXIMITY TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. SO WE HAVE MULCH FOR ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS, TREE REMOVAL IN CENTRAL PARK, WHICH I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY DONE. IS IT CHRIS. THEY'RE ALMOST COMPLETED WITH IT. AND. SO WE'RE DOING THAT IN THIS BUDGET. ABI MACHINE ATTACHMENT NEEDED FOR THE BASEBALL FIELDS TO PICK UP ROCKS, WROUGHT IRON FENCE FOR CENTRAL PARK AND STRIPING FOR PETTY WHITE PARK WILL COME OUT OF FUND 42 ALREADY COMPLETED. BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS LIKE 1600, 1400. I HAVE A QUESTION ESTIMATE. IT NEEDS TO BE FIRED, MAN. SOMETIMES I JUST THROW A NUMBER OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THAT. YOU GOT A QUESTION? YEAH. SO I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING. AND I'M ASSUMING IT'S PROBABLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHAT ABOUT OUR EMERGENCY SIREN? HOW ARE WE ON THAT? YOU KNOW HOW WE TEST IT. IT'S IN THERE. YEAH. THAT THAT WAS I MISSED THAT ONE. WE PUT 25,000 IN A FUND EVERY YEAR. OKAY OKAY OKAY OKAY. THAT'S AN ANNUAL. RIGHT? YEAH. JUST JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON TOP OF THAT FOR SURE. THANK YOU. THERE IS ALSO AN INCREASE IN OUR HEALTH CARE, OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, A 12% INCREASE FOR HEALTH INSURANCE AND DENTAL, A 3% INCREASE. AND THEN ALSO THERE WAS WHAT ELSE DID WE INCREASE? THERE WAS ONE OTHER THING. OH, WE ADDED A 3% INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES FOR THEIR. PAY, THEIR SALARIES, UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION. AND THEN I BELIEVE. HARRY MAY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIRE PAY PLAN. WE DID TRY TO COME UP WITH SOME NUMBERS FOR THAT, BUT I'LL LET HIM TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

THE 3% IS OVERALL. YES. YES. MINUS POLICE AND FIRE. YEAH. THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR STAFF PAY PLAN WHERE IT'S 3% ANYWAY. COUNCIL. IS THIS JUST ONE PAGE? IS THIS A WHOLE. DIFFERENT WAY? SO THERE'S THE SAME. OH YEAH. THE EXTRA. WE JUST TURN THIS WAY. SO. OH I THOUGHT IT WAS A

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AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT AT THE 10% INCREASE, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS ABOUT $200,000 OVER THE ALREADY BUDGETED 5%, AND AT A 20% INCREASE, IT'S ABOUT $605,000 OVER THE 5% BUDGETED INCREASE FOR FIRE. THE SAME WAS PROPOSED. CURRENTLY, THE BASE BUDGET AMOUNT IS AT 3.8. THERE 5% INCREASE WOULD BE AT 408. I MEAN 4,000,004 MILLION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY BUDGETED AT 10% INCREASE IS AT 4.2 MILLION, WHICH IS A $271,000 INCREASE OVER THE 5% THAT'S ALREADY BUDGETED. AND AT 20%, IT'S A $660,000 INCREASE OVER THE 5% THAT'S BUDGETED. COMBINED. IF THE COUNCIL DESIRED TO GO WITH SOMETHING HIGHER, THE 5% THAT'S ALREADY PROPOSED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A 10% SCENARIO AT $472,000, AND AT A 2,020% SCENARIO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A $1.27 MILLION PROPOSAL. SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT I WANTED TO RUN ON, THE TAX RATE WE'RE LOOKING AT, BASED ON THE CERTIFIED VALUES THAT WE GOT FROM BOTH KAUFMAN COUNTY AND DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AT $1.5 BILLION VALUATION, AND THE PROPOSED TAX RATE THAT GAIL AND I KIND OF WORKED ON WAS ABOUT $0.70. OUR TAX RATE IS CURRENTLY 0.71. AND BASED ON THE EVALUATION, THE VALUATIONS THAT WE HAVE, WE LOOK AT LOOKING AT A DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE OF ABOUT 7.71. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT CERTIFIED FROM DALLAS COUNTY AS OF YET. BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU SORT OF CALCULATED. IT'S AN ESTIMATE. AND SO BASED ON WHAT WE CALCULATED, EVERY $0.01 OF TAX RATE GETS ABOUT 158,000%. AND SO IF COUNCIL WAS TO FUND THE 10% SCENARIO, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A

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YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE 10%, A $30 A YEAR INCREASE ON THE TAX PAYER, AND FOR THE FULL INCREASE ON THE 20%. YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT AN $80 A YEAR INCREASE ON THE TAXPAYER. THAT'S $30 PER 100,000 PER 100,000. THAT'S CORRECT. THOUSANDS OF NORTH SIDE OF TOWN ARE 4 TO 500,000. SO IT'S GOING TO BE 4 TO 5 TIMES THAT AMOUNT, CORRECT? YES, SIR. SO IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO ADOPT A RATE HIGHER THAN THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION IS WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. AND SO YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE THIS TO THE VOTERS. THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN NOVEMBER.

THERE'S A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE. I'VE LISTED THE TIMELINE THAT COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON. SHOULD THAT BE THE DESIRE, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THE ACTUAL TAX RATE NO LATER THAN AUGUST 25TH, AND YOU'D HAVE TO CALL FOR AN ELECTION NO LATER THAN AUGUST 18TH. IN THE EVENT THAT THIS WENT TO THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER, AND THE VOTERS DECIDED TO VOTE NO, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WE WOULD, AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, TAKE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE THAT WAS PRESENTED ORIGINALLY. $0.70. CORRECT. WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE YET, RIGHT? WE DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL ONE. THIS IS JUST OUR ESTIMATED WHAT WE WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TO THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME. SO WHERE DOES THIS GO? I MEAN, WHERE DOES IT LIKE INCENTIVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? IS ANY OF THAT IN THESE DOLLAR FIGURES? NOT NOT AT THIS TIME. THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE'VE COME UP WITH SOME, SOME INCENTIVES THAT POSSIBLY COULD BE FUNDED. HOWEVER, I THINK THERE WAS A LOT THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT. WE WERE TRYING TO LOOK AT SURVEY CITIES THAT WE HAVE AND COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE INCENTIVES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ANY THAT ARE JUST ON THE BOOKS, BUT NOT ATTAINABLE BY THE OFFICER. SO WE REALLY BEEN TRYING TO SURVEY OTHER CITIES AND SEE WHAT TYPE OF INCENTIVES THEY HAVE WORKING ON THAT. YES, YES, EVERYBODY'S WORKING ON THE BUDGET. YES. WELL GETTING STUFF. I GUESS FOR ME I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NNR AND THE VAR. FOR THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE THAT SOMETIME THIS WEEK. THEY GAVE US SOME INFORMATION TODAY AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THEM TOMORROW. BUT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THAT, TO HAVE THEM HAVE THAT TO US BY THE END OF THIS WEEK. AND AS SOON AS I HAVE IT, I'LL MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL GETS IT. I'M I MEAN, SOUNDS LIKE A SILLY QUESTION, BUT IT'S THE NUMBERS UP. YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY 10% SCENARIO COMBINED ADDITIONAL COSTS OR SEVEN? TWO. 20 IS 1.2 INSTEAD OF THE NINE. WHATEVER. IT ADDS UP FOR 72 TEMPLATES 20. SO YOU WOULD JUST DOUBLE THE 472 FOR. SO THE 10% INCREASE AT 271 542 201I CAN DO THE MATH. COMMISSIONER FOR 72 TIMES, FOR 72 TIMES TWO. 99 TIMES SIX. 948.

SO YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING BACK. YOU'RE NOT. IT WOULD BE TAKING THE 5% AND THEN ANOTHER 5% ON THAT, I'M SORRY, THE 10%. AND DOING ANOTHER 10% ON THE ALREADY 10% AMOUNT. THE 20% IS ALWAYS IS GOING BACK TO THE BASE AMOUNT. SO EVERY SCENARIO LISTED HERE IS CATEGORY. I MEAN IT'S MULTIPLIED

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YEAH I GOT THAT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO 25TH 25TH. YEAH. HE'S GOT TO SUBMIT IT BY THE 18TH.

AND THEN THE 18TH IS WHEN YOU ALL HAVE TO VOTE ON ACTUAL ELECTION NOVEMBER. AND THEN 25TH IS WHEN THE TAX RATE WOULD HAVE TO BE ADOPTED. YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. AND THEN IT'LL GO TO THAT BY THE FIFTH OR WHATEVER WITHIN THE ELECTION IS IN NOVEMBER. OUR NEXT MEETING IS THE 11TH. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. THE 25TH IS WE HAVE 1 IN 18. SO WE'LL KNOW BY THE 11TH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

YEAH. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL KNOW BY THAT NIGHT OF THE 11TH IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND IT TO AN ELECTION OR NOT. YES, ACTUALLY, ENOUGH OF THE 25TH OF THIS MONTH, JULY, IF YOU ALL CHOOSE TO GO ABOVE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE. AND THAT WILL REQUIRE GOING TO AN ELECTION. SO, AUGUST, I'M SORRY, I SAID IF WE GO ABOVE THAT RATE, WE HAVE TO GO TO AN ELECTION, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH. SO WE GOT TO KNOW THE 11TH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. PERIOD. YES. OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT? 25TH? ARE YOU THROUGH? OKAY. WE'RE FIXING. WE'RE FIXING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. SO I KNOW PROBABLY SOME OF Y'ALL LEAVE. BUT ON BEHALF OF ME AS MAYOR AND I KNOW I SPEAK FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD HERE THAT WORKED SO HARD TO GET A BUDGET THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY LIVE WITH. THANK YOU TO MISS FRENCH FOR ALWAYS YOUR HARD WORK AND FINANCE, MISS BROWN AND OUR NEW CITY MANAGER. WE THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. NEIL. YOU'VE BEEN HERE A SHORT TIME. YOU HAD TO BRING A LOT OF STUFF TOGETHER. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK. WE ARE GOING

[7. The City Council will convene into closed Executive Session pursuant to the Texas Government Code Section 551.074 Personnel Matters, to deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline, or dismissal of a public officer or employee, to wit: A. City Manager B. City Secretary]

[8. The City Council will reconvene into open session and take any necessary action as a result of Executive Session.]