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YOU FOR YOU. WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE IN OUR LIVES. LORD. LORD, WE ASK YOU TO COME INTO OUR CHAMBER TODAY AND JUST TOUCH EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN HERE, LORD. MAKE US MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOOD FOR OUR CITY. LORD. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH OUR MILITARY, OUR POLICE AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS. LORD. ALL THIS WE ASK IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS TO ALLOW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC UP TO SIX MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. THE BOARD MAY NOT DISCUSS THESE ITEMS, BUT MAY RESPOND WITH FACTUAL DATA OR POLICY INFORMATION, OR PLACE THE ITEM ON A FUTURE AGENDA. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK SHOULD SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT FORM TO THE CHAIR OR BOARD LIAISON PRIOR TO THE START OF THE MEETING. OKAY. ITEM ONE. NUMBER ONE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST

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THE 12TH, 2025. PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. I RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES FOR AUGUST 12TH, 2025. I HAVE A MOTION. NEED A SECOND? GOT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? ITEM NUMBER TWO. REZONE. CASE NUMBER 2025. DASH 028Z. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A ZONING CHANGE FROM THE LIGHT MANUFACTURING ZONING DISTRICT TO A RESIDENTIAL R5 ZONING DISTRICT TO ALLOW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT 111 WEST FARMERS ROAD, DALLAS COUNTY, TEXAS. 75159. COLLIN, GIVE IT TO YOU. GOOD EVENING. SO GOING TO BE COVERING THE REZONE FOR 111 WEST FARMERS. IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN YOU'LL SEE A AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS OUTLINED IN RED. I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL Y'ALL CAN SEE IT IN YOUR SCREENS OR NOT. SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED LIGHT MANUFACTURING. OUR APPLICANT HERE, THEY'RE WANTING TO REZONE IT TO R5 RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT WAY THEY CAN CONSTRUCT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. WHICH THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IF IT WERE ZONED LIGHT MANUFACTURING. THE PROPERTY, I'M CERTAIN MAYBE SOME OF Y'ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT. IT WAS A BIT OF A NUISANCE PROBLEM OR PROPERTY, RATHER FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT, AND EVEN BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH SEVERAL VIOLATIONS. TAKING PLACE OVER SEVERAL YEARS, THERE WAS A SQUATTER INVOLVED. THE HOUSE HAD TO BE CONDEMNED AND DEMOLISHED. OUR APPLICANT HAS SINCE ABATED. ALL OF THESE VIOLATIONS. SO THEY'RE JUST WANTING TO GET IT REZONED. SO THAT WAY THEY CAN BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON ALL OF THE SURROUNDING USES. WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD ALSO BE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY PART OF A A STRIP OF SEAGOVILLE THAT USED TO RUN ALONG THE RAILROAD. SO THE WHOLE PORTION OF THAT AREA IS ZONED LIGHT MANUFACTURING. THERE ARE HOMES ON SEVERAL OF THESE PROPERTIES, HOWEVER, SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A SOME SORT OF MECHANIC SHOP OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED IN LIGHT MANUFACTURING, WE BELIEVE THAT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD

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BE BEST SUITED AND MOST SUITABLE FOR THAT PROPERTY. THERE'S A IMAGE FROM OUR ZONING MAP. IT'S THE SMALL RED RECTANGLE THERE AND NEAR THE CENTER. THE PURPLE AREA IS LIGHT MANUFACTURING, SO THAT IS THE AREA THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO GET REZONED RESIDENTIAL. AND I'M I'M AVAILABLE TO HAVE ANY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. AND THEN OUR APPLICANT'S ALSO HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. I HAVE ONE. WHAT IS THAT. THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND IT.

IT'S PINK ON THIS MAP. BUT ON THE PREVIOUS MAP THERE WERE TWO LARGE BUILDINGS IN IT. SO THAT IS ZONED OFFICE AS WELL AS LIGHT MANUFACTURING. I BELIEVE IT'S GENESIS, THE GENESIS FIRE BUSINESS THAT'S THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUESTION RIGHT BESIDE THIS PROPERTY.

THERE'S IT LOOKS LIKE A VACANT PROPERTY THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. DIFFERENT OWNERS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE TRASH IS BLOWN OVER TO THIS LOT. SO MY BEST GUESS ON THAT ONE, THE SQUATTER THAT WAS LOCATED ON THIS PROPERTY DID HAPPEN TO BLEED OVER INTO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AS WELL. OKAY. MY GUESS IS THAT WHEN THIS IMAGE WAS TAKEN FOR DALLAS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, OR DCAD FOR SHORT, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WHEN THAT NUISANCE WAS THERE. IF I COULD ZOOM IN, I'D SHOW YOU THE PROPERTY. THERE'S TRASH AND STUFF EVERYWHERE OVER, OVER THE PROPERTY. SO. AND YOU SAID THIS IS THE ONLY ONE ON THIS STREET RIGHT HERE THAT IS NOT ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY. SO GOING TO THE ZONING MAP HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE I'LL MOVE OVER ALL THESE RIGHT HERE, THIS ENTIRE STRIP HERE IS ZONED LIGHT MANUFACTURING. WHICH ON HERE IT IS INDICATED AS RESIDENTIAL. BUT WE DID CHECK SOME OF OUR OLDER ZONING MAPS. AND IT DID TURN OUT TO BE LIGHT MANUFACTURING AS WELL. OKAY. SO NEARLY THE ENTIRE STRIP IS LIGHT MANUFACTURING. BUT THERE ARE HOMES BUILT. CORRECT. YEAH. 3 OR 4. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING THIS ONE. AND THE ONE NEXT DOOR. OH YES. AND THEN TO ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION, SO THEY DO NOT POSSESS THE NEIGHBORING LOT. OKAY. SO THAT ONE WOULD REMAIN UNTOUCHED. AND THIS IS BIG ENOUGH TO BUILD. SO IT IS. WE DID CHECK THE LOT DIMENSIONS AND THEY DID SUBMIT A SURVEY AS WELL. IT DOES MEET THE MINIMUM MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR ZONING DISTRICT. GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU COLLIN. AND JUST TO CLARIFY AS WELL, I'M NOT SURE IF COLLIN HAD MENTIONED, BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, GIVEN THAT THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET AND DOWN THE STREET AS WELL, WE BELIEVE THAT KIND OF ABATING THE NUISANCE AND HELPING TO REVITALIZE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE POSITIVE FOR THE AREA AND ALLEVIATE A NUISANCE THAT HAS BEEN PLAGUING THE NEIGHBORS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 639. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? OKAY. MEMBERS. NO. I'M GOOD. I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION ON THE ZONING APPLICATION. IT SHOWS THE OWNER HAS A COMPANY NAME OF MONDRAGON, HOMEBUILDER AND SPRINKLERS. IS THAT WHAT'S BEHIND THAT? THAT PROPERTY. GIOVANNI MONDRAGON I HOPE I'M SAYING THAT RIGHT. I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT. I'M SORRY. IS YOUR QUESTION THAT IF THIS APPLICANT IS THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY BEHIND THIS SITE? NO, THEY'RE THEY'RE SEPARATE. OKAY. MR. MONDRAGON HAS BUILT HOMES HERE IN SEAGOVILLE BEFORE. YOU'LL KIND OF SEE IF YOU DRIVE IN THE STAFFORD EDITION. KIND OF THE OLDER PARTS OF TOWN, YOU'LL SEE, LIKE NEW, MORE MODERN LOOKING OR SOME FARMHOUSE STYLE HOMES. HE'S GENERALLY THE THE BUILDER THAT HAS BUILT THOSE, CONSTRUCTED THOSE HOMES. OKAY, SO HE'S BUYING IT AS A BUILDER TO TO BUILD AND RESELL. CORRECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 641. I'M GOING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

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I RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA. I GOT A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. NEED A SECOND? GOT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? AND THIS ITEM WILL BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 15TH. CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. OKAY. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING TO RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. WE'LL BE OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE BACK INTO THE REGULAR SESSION. ITEM NUMBER THREE, REZONE, CASE NUMBER 2025, DASH 025 PD, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING. DISCUSS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A ZONING CHANGE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO AN AMENDED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. TRACTS OF LAND KNOWN GENERALLY AS THE LAKES OF ROLLING MEADOWS DEVELOPMENT AND CONSISTING OF A COMBINED TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 238.79 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, BEING MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 1755 EAST BROADBRIDGE ROAD. 1001 ALTO ROAD. IN 1520 ALTO ROAD, SEAGOVILLE, TEXAS. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 652. BILL MEDINA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO THIS IS CASE NUMBER 2020 5-025 PD A THAT PD IS FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE COLLIN. SO HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED PD AMENDMENT. I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH HERE KIND OF WHAT WAS EXISTING PREVIOUSLY ON THE SITE OR NOT PREVIOUSLY AS THE ZONING EXISTS TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE. AND THEN HOW THE APPLICANT IS CHOOSING TO AMEND OR REQUESTING TO AMEND THE SITE. SO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BEFORE OR A CURRENT PICTURE AND THEN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THE SITE. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO FOR REFERENCE THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY. WE HAVE MALLOY BRIDGE ROAD FRONTING KIND OF NORTH TO SOUTH HERE NEAR THE LEVY. AND THEN THAT'S ALTO ROAD ALSO TO THE NORTH. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT DEAD ENDING I'M SORRY, ENDING OVER THERE. SO IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OKAY. SO THIS SITE HERE, THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IS IN YOUR PACKET. THAT WAS ORDINANCE NUMBER 14 DASH 2022 CONSISTING OF 138 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT WAS PITCHED TO THE CITY AS 100 TO INCLUDE 130 COTTAGE STYLE LOTS, BEING AGE RESTRICTED TO THOSE 55 YEARS OR OLDER. I DID HAVE A TYPO IN MY WRITE UP HERE IN THE BACKGROUND I'M GOING TO CORRECTLY STATE THE NUMBERS, BUT THE ACTUAL FACTS ARE IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, SO YOU CAN READ THAT FOR YOURSELF. BUT 25% OF THOSE COTTAGE DWELLING UNITS SHALL BE 1400 SQUARE FEET, 25% SHALL BE 1600 SQUARE FEET. I HAD WRITTEN 1500, AND THEN 50% OF THE REMAINING DWELLING UNITS FOR THE COTTAGES WERE TO BE 1500 SQUARE FEET, MOVING DOWN TO THE SINGLE FAMILY COMPONENT OF THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.

THESE LOTS WERE TO BE 50FT WIDE BY 120FT DEEP, WITH A 25 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK. THAT'S THE BUILDING LINE FOR WHERE YOU CAN CONSTRUCT ANY STRUCTURE. ERECT ANY STRUCTURE WOULD BE 25FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE OR THE RIGHT OF WAY. THAT ALSO CONSISTED OF 25% OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS TO BE 1600 SQUARE FEET, 50% 1700 SQUARE FEET, 25% 1800 SQUARE FEET. AND ONE THING TO NOTE, THAT'S LIVING AREA THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GARAGE. THE AMENITIES INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IT JUST HAD MENTIONED.

IT WAS KIND OF VAGUE, BUT IT HAD SAID, QUOTE, A MAJOR AMENITY CENTER WITH POOL, A PLAYGROUND, PICKLEBALL COURT, COMMUNITY GARDENS, DOG PARK AND AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE MAJOR TRAIL SYSTEM. SO THAT'S THE EXISTING SITE AS IT EXISTS TODAY. AGAIN, THAT IS IN YOUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE ALL THE SIGNATURES IN THAT DOCUMENT HERE BACK FROM 2022. OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO TALK NOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THE

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APPLICANT WISHES TO ADJUST OR AMEND THE SITE. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET INTO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. BUT IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS IN BETWEEN, FEEL FREE TO STOP ME.

SO WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY IS THE REMOVAL OF THE COTTAGE UNITS ENTIRELY, AND THAT AGE RESTRICTED COMMUNITIES JUST TO BE REMOVED. IN ITS PLACE, A TOTAL OF 644 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ARE BEING PROPOSED. 389 OF THOSE WOULD BE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS AND 255 OF THOSE LOTS WOULD BE 40FT WIDE. SO THE BREAKDOWN THERE IS PLUS OR MINUS A COUPLE DECIMAL POINTS, BUT ROUGHLY 40% OF THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TO BE 40 FOOT WIDE. LOTS TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE STRUCTURES AND THE LOTS THEMSELVES. THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING THAT PHASES ONE AND TWO. SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SCREEN HERE, YOU CAN SEE PHASE ONE AND TWO. THAT ROAD THAT YOU SEE IS GOING TO BE LASSETER ROAD. SO SOUTH OF LASSETER ROAD, PHASE ONE AND TWO WOULD ENTIRELY BE 50 FOOT LOTS PHASE I'M SORRY ONE AND TWO. IF YOU HAVE 50 FOOT LOTS, PHASE THREE WOULD BE ENTIRELY 40 FOOT LOTS. AND THEN PHASE FOUR HAS A MIX OF 40 FOOT AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS. SOMETHING TO NOTE JUST WITH WITH STANDARD DEVELOPMENT THAT LASSETER ROAD DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST TODAY. HOWEVER, TO TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT AND SUPPORT THE THE NEW HOUSING, THE DEVELOPER IS REQUIRED TO EXTEND THE THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE ROAD. LASSETER ROAD RATHER ALL THE WAY TO MALLOY BRIDGE ROAD AND BUILD IT OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO CONNECT TO CASA GRANDE AS WELL, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS, AND WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IN A SECOND.

BUT BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE ACTUAL LOTS THEMSELVES. THE FRONT YARD SHALL BE 22FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. SO TAKING THE FRONT YARD SETBACK DOWN FROM 25FT DOWN TO 22FT. IMPORTANT NOTE HERE IS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING A FIVE FOOT ENCROACHMENT INTO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK FOR ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS SUCH AS PORCHES, LAMPS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO KIND OF PUSH THAT HOUSE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET. AGAIN, DRIVEWAY SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF 22FT FROM THE GARAGE DOOR TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OR TO THE PROPERTY LINE. AND THEN THOSE ARE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENTS THAT I HAVE OUTLINED ALREADY. ADDITIONALLY, THEY'RE PROPOSING A FOUR FOOT CONCRETE SIDEWALK FROM THE DRIVEWAY TO THE FRONT DOOR. ALL PRIVACY SCREENING SHOULD HAVE OR SHALL HAVE A PRE-STAINED WOOD FENCE WITH AT LEAST SIX FEET HIGH WITH A TOP TRIM AND CAP ON. ON THOSE PRIVACY FENCES, ALL HOMES SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM 80% ROOF PITCH OF EIGHT BY 12. THAT'S 812 RATIO. MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR ALL THE STRUCTURES 35FT. ALL HOMES SHALL HAVE COACH LAMPS NEXT TO GARAGE DOORS AND FRONT DOORS, 80% STONE MASONRY ON ALL STRUCTURES BELOW THE CEILING PLATE. ABOVE THE CEILING PLATE. ALL SIDES MAY HAVE CEMENT SIDING. SOMETHING TO NOTE ON THAT STATE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW US TO IN, REQUIRE OR REGULATE EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS. THE DEVELOPER OR HOMEBUILDER ELECTS TO CHOOSE TO DO THAT. THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY REQUIRE THAT STANDARD ANYMORE. GARAGES CAN ONLY RELEASE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET, NOT COLLECTOR ROADS, MEANING YOU'LL SEE SOME LOTS HERE. WE CALL THEM DOUBLE FRONTAGE. LOTS IN PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU'LL HAVE LOTS THAT FRONT ONTO A LOCAL STREET AS WELL AS A LASTER ROAD IN THIS CASE. BASICALLY, THIS JUST SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A FRONT YARD ON THE LAST ROAD. IT HAS TO BE ON ONE OF THE LOCAL SMALLER RESIDENTIAL STREETS. ALSO, THE FRONT FACADE OF EVERY SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE SHALL INCORPORATE THREE OF THE FOLLOWING DISTINCTIVE WINDOW PANES BALCONIES, BAYS, FAUX BALCONIES, WINDOW OVERHANGS, ROOF EAVES, ETC. CHANGES IN COLOR OR TEXTURE EITHER DIAGONALLY, HORIZONTALLY OR VERTICALLY. CHANGES IN PLANE WITH A DEPTH OF AT LEAST 24IN, WHICH KIND OF PUSHES THE FACE OF THE OF THE STRUCTURE IN AND OUT, AND THEN CHANGES IN ROOF LINE. SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, WE WANTED TO TO KIND OF REQUIRE SOME SORT OF VARIATION OF THE STRUCTURES TO TRY TO HELP THOSE HOMES LOOK DIFFERENT FROM ONE ANOTHER. WE'VE ALSO ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO INCLUDE ANTI MONOTONY STANDARDS, WHICH BASICALLY SAYS YOU CAN'T PUT THE SAME HOUSE NEXT TO EACH OTHER OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE ANOTHER. MAKE SURE THAT THAT THESE HOUSES, BECAUSE THE SAME FLOOR PLAN LITTLE BIT, KIND OF CREATE SOME VISUAL DIVERSITY OF THE HOMES THERE. THAT INCLUDES BALCONIES, BAY WINDOWS, NUMBER OF STORIES,

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THINGS LIKE THAT. FURTHERMORE, THE APPLICANTS, INCLUDING AN AMENITY PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES A 1500 SQUARE FOOT POOL, AIR CONDITIONED BATHROOMS WITH THAT POOL AREA AND A 500 SQUARE FOOT CABANA AREA, TWO PLAYGROUND SETS, TWO PICKLEBALL COURTS, ONE FULL SIZE BASKETBALL COURT, HALF BASKETBALL COURT, AND A 2400 SQUARE FOOT DOG PARK. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO KEEPING THAT CONCRETE WALKING TRAIL AS WELL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE WE'VE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. ARE THE APPLICANT RATHER WE'VE WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON KIND OF WHAT WE'VE EXPECTED TO SEE IN THE DEVELOPMENT WE ARE WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST TONIGHT. WE'VE LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. HOWEVER, THE LOT WITH OF 40% SEEMS TO BE EXCESSIVE. I'M SORRY, 40% OF THE 40 FOOT LOTS SEEMS TO BE A BIT EXCESSIVE ON OUR END. WE'VE ALSO BEEN HOLDING WORK SESSIONS WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL IN WHICH WE'VE WE'VE SOUGHT RECOMMENDATIONS AND DIRECTION ON WHAT OUR COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON OUR NEW HOMES, AND THEY HAVE A STRONG DESIRE FOR INCREASED FRONT YARD SETBACKS. WE'VE MADE BOTH OF THESE POINTS CLEAR TO THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

WE'VE ALSO KIND OF LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY SURPRISE GOING INTO THIS.

THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN SLIDES, WHICH WE'VE UPLOADED THAT THEY WOULD WISH TO. THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE. BUT BEFORE I HAND IT OVER, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF MYSELF OR COLIN. I'M LOOKING HERE. IT SAYS FRONT YARD SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 22FT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. OKAY. AND THEN RIGHT BELOW IT, IT SAYS FRONT PORCH. AND OTHER ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS ARE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH FIVE FEET INTO THE FRONT YARD SETBACK. SO THAT'S PUTTING US THE WAY I READ THAT. AND Y'ALL LET ME KNOW IF I'M RIGHT OR NOT. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A 17 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. NOW, THEY DO HAVE LANGUAGE THAT THAT MAINTAINS A DRIVEWAY SHALL BE 22FT. THAT MEANS THAT THE DRIVEWAY MAY BE SET FURTHER BACK. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE FIVE FEET WOULD BE WOULD GIVE AN ALLOWANCE TO, TO ENCROACH IN THAT 22 FOOT. SO THE DRIVEWAY IF IT'S IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, IT'S 22FT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. IF THE DRIVEWAY STARTS AT THE RIGHT OF WAY, IT HAS TO SET 22FT BACK. DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THE HOUSE IS, RIGHT? RIGHT. SO WHENEVER THE APPLICANT WOULD SUBMIT BUILDING PLANS TO US FOR REVIEW, THE SURVEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THAT EDGE OF THE GARAGE MINIMUM OF 22FT. AND YOU KNOW, TO ME, A DRIVEWAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND I KNOW OF ONE INSTANCE, BUT THEIR VEHICLES EXTEND OVER THE SIDEWALK. SO, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU IF IF YOU HAVE ALL YOUR FACULTIES AND YOU'RE ABLE TO WALK AROUND IT, BUT IF YOU'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO WALK AROUND THAT. SO I JUST HAVE HEARTBURN OVER THAT PART OF IT. WOULD YOU? YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN A PUBLIC HEARING RIGHT NOW. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE? THEY ALSO HAVE SLIDES CALLING IF YOU WANT TO GET THOSE READY. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME. SURE. SURE. OKAY. GOT IT, GOT IT. GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS MOHAMMED HUSSEIN, AND I'M THE APPLICANT. AND THIS IS MY WIFE'S. HI, I'M THE APPLICANT. I'M ZULAIKHA HUSSEIN, NICKNAMED LADY Z. NICE TO MEET YOU ALL. NICE MEETING YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO BEFORE I BEGIN THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND. I KNOW BILL DID TOUCH ON SOME OF THE THINGS. WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY BACK IN EARLY 2022. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. MY WIFE IS A REALTOR. SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR THE SINCE ABOUT 2021, ACTUALLY, JULY OF 2021. SO QUICKLY GOT TO WORK AND GOT IT ENTITLED, I THINK AROUND JUNE OR SO OF 2022. YEAH, FIVE

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INDIVIDUAL PARCELS, TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS THAT WE HAD TO. IT WAS FIVE PARCELS, TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS. SO THE NEGOTIATION TRYING TO GET A LARGER, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SITE THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY NOW. SO, YOU KNOW, WE DID GET APPROVED, I THINK, MARCH OF 2022 AND THEN WENT TO CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SO THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL 700 LOTS, CORRECT. AND THEN 130 OF THOSE WERE COTTAGE HOMES. AS BILL POINTED OUT. THE DIFFERENCE IS NOW WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAFF FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, OR EVEN PROBABLY LONGER THAN THAT. WE HAD A DIFFERENT BUYER THAT WAS HAVING A DIFFERENT IDEAS. AND THEN I THINK THAT ALSO BROUGHT IN A DIFFERENT SCOPE OF CONCEPT OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE AND WHAT NOT. AND SO NOW WE'RE ON LIKE YEAR THREE TRYING TO GET THIS COMPLETED. AND TO WHAT MR. TOMMY WAS SUGGESTING, I, I WENT BACK AND I CORRECTED, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE ON THAT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A 25 FOOT SETBACK. SO WE WILL GET TO.

YEAH, WE'LL GET TO THAT. SO MY POINT HERE WAS WE WENT FROM ABOUT OVERALL 700 LOTS TO A LOWER DENSITY OF ABOUT 644 LOTS. SO JUST TO KIND OF BRING EVERYBODY ON THAT PERSPECTIVE.

SO THE FIRST THING I WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH ON IS WHAT MR. TOMMY HAD BROUGHT UP. AND I KNOW THIS WAS SUBSEQUENT TO BILL ACTUALLY SENDING THE PACKET. SO WE ARE IN FACT, WORKING ON AND LOOKING AT A SETBACK OF 25FT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, IF YOU SEE ON THE DIAGRAM HERE. SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ALL THE WAY TO THE GARAGE, IT'S ACTUALLY 25FT, NOT 22. SO THERE SHOULD BE A PLENTY OF ROOM THERE FOR THE LARGEST TRUCK THAT WE KNOW OF.

WE DID SOME GOOGLING AND STUFF IS ABOUT, I THINK, 18FT AT THE MAX, AND THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU PLENTY OF TIME EXTRA WITH THE EXTRA CAB AND EVERYTHING ELSE. LIKE ALL THE WHEELS AND THE BUSTLES, WHEELS AND BELLS AND WHISTLES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THAT'S MAXIMUM 22FT.

SO THE LARGEST TRUCK THAT EXISTS TODAY, IF YOU WERE RESIDENTIAL, IS 22FT, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE THAT ADDRESSES THE CONCERN THERE. SO THAT'S KIND OF ON THE SETBACKS. ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS WE DID COMPLETE, AS BILL WAS POINTING OUT ON THE DIFFERENT PHASES PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE, AND PHASE FOUR, WE DID COMPLETE THE ENGINEERING ON PHASE ONE, AND THAT IS BASED ON THE 25 FOOT SETBACK. WE JUST VERIFIED THAT, AND THAT HAS GONE TO SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THE REVIEW WITH THE STAFF, AND I BELIEVE IT IS PRETTY CLOSE TO GETTING APPROVED. THAT'S DEPENDENT ON, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE FINAL LOT COUNTS APPROVED BY PNC AND CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN THE THAT SHOULD THEN BE APPROVED AS WELL.

ALONG WITH THAT, WE'RE WORKING ON PHASE TWO. PHASE TWO I BELIEVE ENGINEERING IS ABOUT 75% COMPLETED AS WELL. SO JUST KIND OF LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE'VE SPENT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF NOT ONLY TIME, RESOURCES AND MONEY ALSO ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE CONTINUE TO DO SO SO THAT WE CAN BRING THIS TO BEAR FAIRLY QUICKLY. SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO HELP HERE IN THE CITY IS AND ON THE DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE LANDSCAPING SIDE. I'LL GO QUICKLY SLIDE BY SLIDE HERE TO KIND OF SHOW. I KNOW IN THE PD YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR LANDSCAPING SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING THE EDGING. AND WE AGREE WITH THAT.

SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS AS A SAMPLE OF HOW THAT EDGING WILL LOOK LIKE ALONG THE FLOWER BEDS WITH THE SHRUBS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO ALL THESE KIND OF FALLS UNDER THE PD AMENDMENT HERE, THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR BELABOR THIS POINT. I THINK BILL ALREADY TOUCHED UPON THAT. WE DID GO BACK FROM OUR ORIGINAL PD TO A DIFFERENT SET OF MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THAT IS, THE 50% OF THE DWELLING SHALL BE A MINIMUM OF 1600 SQUARE FEET OF THE LIVING AREA, AND THEN 25% OF THEM WILL BE 1500 MINIMUM, AND THEN ANOTHER 25% WOULD BE THE MINIMUM OF 1700. SO THAT GIVES US A A GOOD MIX OF DIVERSITY AND SO FORTH FROM A SQUARE FOOTAGE AND AFFORDABILITY PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMY TODAY AND SO FORTH, IT BECOMES PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BUILD THIS AND SELL. AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS DEVELOPMENT

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AS WELL. ON THE AMENITY CENTER, WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF ON A NUMBER OF THINGS HERE. WE DID AGREE TO DO A 1500 SQUARE FEET SWIMMING POOL WITH A SPLASH PAD AND A CABANA ON THAT. YOU CAN SEE SOMEWHAT OF A PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, AN ILLUSTRATIVE PICTURE OF HOW THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, AS BILL SAID, A AIR CONDITIONED BATHROOMS OF 400FTā– !S. ON THE SPORT COURTS. THERE ARE TWO SETS HERE. ONE IS THE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT WILL HAVE TWO FULL SIZE PICKLEBALL COURTS SPREAD ACROSS DIFFERENT PHASES. SO YOU WILL HAVE THAT.

AND THEN WE ALSO WILL HAVE TWO SETS OF BASKETBALL COURTS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ADDED INITIALLY. WE HAD ONE FULL SIZE BASKETBALL COURT, BUT WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND ADD ANOTHER HALF A BASKETBALL COURT NEAR THE AMENITY CENTER, WHICH WOULD BE PART OF PHASE TWO, TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN ONE AREA AND BE ABLE TO ALSO AVAIL THE FACILITY MUCH CLOSER ON THE PLAY SETS. THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TWO PLAYSETS FOR THE CHILDREN. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WILL HAVE MULTIPLE THINGS FOR THEM TO PLAY AROUND WITH AND SO FORTH. AND AGAIN, THIS WILL ALSO WILL BE SPREAD OUT INTO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PHASES. DOG PARK 2400 MINIMUM DOG PARK OF SQUARE FEET. AND THIS IS WOULD BE RELATIVELY LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A NUMBER OF DOGS IN THAT DOG PARK, AND IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE HERE. THE LAST SLIDE IS REALLY TRAILS AND TRAILS IS THIS IS IN THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT BILL SHOWED. IT ACTUALLY WRAPS AROUND MOST OF OUR PROPERTY. AND THAT WOULD BE A EIGHT FOOT WIDE TRAIL THAT WOULD BE PAVED AND WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE AS WELL. SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR PRESENTATION TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE BRINGING IN IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS. YEAH, I HAD A COUPLE IF I CAN. OKAY. I'M TRYING TO COMPARE WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW TO THE OTHER REQUESTING AND I'M BOUNCING BACK AND FORTH. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY COTTAGE DWELLINGS AT ALL. THAT IS CORRECT OKAY. SO NO SENIOR NO HOUSING. NO MA'AM. OKAY. THEN YOU'VE GOT YOU'RE GOING FROM 25% OF THE DWELLING UNITS AT 1600 TO 50% OF THEM AT 1600, CORRECT. 50 OF 1700 TO ONLY 25%. AND THEN 25 AT 1800, STAYING AT 25. CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

SO YOU SAID THAT THE ORIGINALLY WE HAD 700 LOTS. THAT IS CORRECT. AND Y'ALL WERE GOING TO BRING IT DOWN TO 644 LOTS. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THEN I HAD I HAD KIND OF A TWO QUESTION THING. YOU MENTIONED THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE ASKING FOR 20, 22FT FROM THE RIGHTS OF WAY LINE, AND IT'S CURRENTLY 25. RIGHT? OKAY. AND JUST TO CORRECT THAT, WE ARE REMAINING THE SAME 25FT. WE'RE NOT ASKING 22FT ANYMORE OKAY. SO THAT REQUEST IS COMING OUT OF THERE.

CORRECT. IT'LL BE 25FT SETBACK. YEAH. MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE YOU ASKING 22 IF YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT. EXACTLY. SO THAT REQUEST IS COMING OUT. THAT IS CORRECT. IT WILL BE 25FT SETBACK. SO THAT WILL GIVE YOU A FULL DRIVEWAY. AS I SHOWED IN THE PICTURE, A FULL 25FT TO THE GARAGE DOOR. OKAY, SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU SOME OPTIONS THAT 25 YOU'D HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THAT. THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. RIGHT. AND THEN IF WE'RE GOING DOWN FROM 700 TO 644 LOTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SHRINKING THE FRONT OF THE LOTS. WHAT? WHY WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHERE'S THAT. REMEMBER THE THE COTTAGE HOMES WERE HIGHER DENSITIES. THERE WERE SMALLER LOTS 35 FOOT. SO THAT'S REDUCES. SO WE WENT FROM AND IN ORDER TO KIND OF MAINTAIN THE THE DENSITY AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE, WE KIND OF TOOK A MIX OF 50 FOOT FRONT FOOT LOTS. AND WE ADDED ALSO SOME OF 40 FOOT LOTS, AS BILL HAD SHOWN IN THE CONCEPT. SO THAT TOGETHER BRINGS IT TO 644. OKAY. THANK YOU. LOST ME. SO THE ORIGINAL 700 LOTS INCLUDED THE COTTAGE? YES. YOU'RE TAKING THE COTTAGE OUT, WHICH WAS 130 LOTS.

CORRECT. AND YOU'RE MAKING THE LOT SMALLER. SOME OF THEM ARE SMALLER. THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

SO LOT 130 LOTS WERE REMOVED, RIGHT? THEY WERE 35 BY I BELIEVE 30 BY 70. SO THEY WERE VERY TIGHT AND CLOSE. SO WE GOT RID OF THOSE. AND BECAUSE WE GOT RID OF THOSE WE NO LONGER AT 700. BUT IF WE JUST FOCUSED ON ONLY THE 50 BY 120, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONLY BEEN 590.

AND BUT WE NEEDED TO ADD SOME DENSITY SO WE CAN GET SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUILDERS IN HERE.

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EVERY BUILDER WANTS TO HAVE AN OPTION OF HAVING AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT VARIATION, SO AT LEAST WE CAN SELL PHASE ONE AND THREE TO A NATIONAL BUILDER, AND THEN PHASE TWO AND FOUR TO A NATIONAL BUILDER. SO THEY HAVE SOME VARIATION IN THEIR ABILITY TO SELL DIFFERENT PRICE POINTS. OKAY. SO THE SMALLER COTTAGES ARE OUT I'M SORRY I'M SLOW ON THIS ONE. NO NO PLEASE.

YEAH. SMALLER COTTAGES ARE OUT. YOU'RE REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE LOTS. CORRECT. SOMEWHAT.

YES. COMING IN. SOME OF THEM. CORRECT. ARE THE DEBTS STAYING THE SAME? DEPTH IS REMAINING THE SAME. THAT'S THE SAME. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE LESS HOMES EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE SHRINKING SOME OF THE CORRECT SHRINKING. SO WHAT WHAT I THINK THE BETTER WAY TO EXPLAIN THAT IS THE 30S ARE GONE. BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING THOSE 30S WE EXPANDED THEM TO 40S. THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT AT 700 ANYMORE. WE'RE AT 644 BECAUSE SOME OF THE 30S WENT WIDE, AND NOW WE'RE INDEPENDENTLY ADDRESSED AND INDEPENDENTLY. LOT COUNTED.

HOW'S THE BEST WAY TO SAY IT? THEY HAVE THEIR OWN. THE FOOTPRINTS. WELL, THE FOOTPRINTS, BUT ALSO THEIR OWN SURVEY AND THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL ADDRESS VERSUS A 135 LIKE A CONDOMINIUM REGIME NO LONGER. OKAY. AND YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL BUILDERS. HOW MANY DO YOU ANTICIPATE PARTICIPATING? SO ONE DEVELOPER WOULD BE BUILDING OUT THE LOTS AND PROBABLY TWO BUILDERS, THE TWO BUILDERS. AND THEN THERE WILL BE HMOS. OH OF COURSE, YES, HOA WILL BE THERE.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. I'VE GOT A. YOU JUST SAID THAT THE COTTAGES HAD 30 FOOT WIDE LOTS.

NOWHERE IN THIS THAT I HAVE FROM THE ORIGINAL DEAL SHOWS A 30 FOOT WIDE LOT. EVERYTHING SHOWS THE. WHAT IS IT, 50 OR 60? 50 FOOT WIDE, 50 BY 120. CORRECT. IT DOESN'T. AND IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING IN THE COTTAGES ABOUT THE LOTS BEING 30 FOOT WIDE. THERE WERE A CONDOMINIUM REGIME SELECTION, SO THERE WERE 130 SORT OF SCOPED TOGETHER. YEAH. AND SO THEY THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE 30, BUT THEY WERE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER. SO THERE WERE TINIER 30 BY 30. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO. THEY WERE THEY WERE SMALLER. THEY WERE 30 BY I BELIEVE 70. YEAH. TINIER. AND THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE. RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO IF YOU WERE TO TURN TO SECTION TWO, C TWO IN THE ORIGINAL PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AS IT EXISTS TODAY, YOU'LL SEE THE COTTAGES. IT TALKS ABOUT A VERY SHORT FRONT YARD SETBACK, RIGHT. BEING 18FT. IT TALKS ABOUT LOT COVERAGE, GUEST PARKING FOR THE COTTAGES GARAGE SIZE. BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE LOT WIDTH OR LOT DEPTH DIMENSIONS. I CAN'T SPEAK TO KIND OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THE TIME DURING THAT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. I JUST WASN'T HERE. BUT WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS SIGNED AND ADOPTED DOESN'T SHOW 30 FOOT WIDE LOT. OKAY. YEAH, BUT BUT THE LOT COUNTS DOES SHOW IN THE ORDINANCE. I BELIEVE THE NUMBER 3030. THE 130 IS THERE. YES. OKAY. I THOUGHT THE ORDINANCE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE LOT DIMENSIONS. MENTIONED THAT TO ME IN ORDER TO GET 130 WAS 30 BY 70, MAYBE NOT IN THE ORDINANCE. SO THAT'S WHAT STUCK. SO QUICK QUESTION. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ARE YOU LOOKING AT THIS RED LINE DOCUMENT. WHEN YOU SAY WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I AM LOOKING AT SO YOU HAVE YOUR APPLICATION RIGHT AFTER THE APPLICATION YOU'LL SEE THIS DOCUMENT. YEAH. ORDNANCE 14 DASH 2022. AND THEN IF YOU TURN THE PAGE YOU'LL SEE SECTION TWO.

AND THEN UNDER SECTION TWO YOU'LL SEE ITEM NUMBER C AND THEN NUMBER TWO IT SAYS THE COTTAGES OVER 55 COMMUNITY. DID YOU FIND THAT SECTION. YEAH. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. SO I THINK MAYBE THE WAY TO LOOK AT IT, MR. MEDINA, IS WHAT WAS APPROVED AND IS APPROVED CURRENTLY TRYING TO MAKE IT A MUCH MORE BETTER AND MORE CONCISE AND CLEAR GOING FORWARD.

AMENDMENT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY AND A NICER ONE TOO. YEAH, CLARITY IS ALWAYS IS ALWAYS BETTER WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ISSUES, FOR SURE. MAYBE RECOMMEND TO APPROVE IT ONE MONTH BELOW. OKAY. GO AHEAD, LET'S FINISH. QUESTION ON THE SMALLER LOTS. HOW FAR THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE APART FROM EACH OTHER? I BELIEVE THE SIDE THERE'S SETBACKS ON THE SIDES

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OF. I BELIEVE IT'S TEN FOOT BETWEEN THE HOUSES, TEN FOOT IN TOTAL. TEN FEET I BELIEVE.

TOTAL. YES, THAT'S RIGHT, FIVE FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THE HOUSE. OKAY. SO TEN FEET. YES. BETWEEN THE HOUSE. CORRECT. OKAY. YES. EACH EACH LOT WILL HAVE FIVE FEET FROM ITS PROPERTY LINE.

CORRECT. SO THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF TEN FEET. TEN FEET. YEAH. BILL, I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAS ANY OF WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR? THE WE DO HAVE SOME 40S IN THE CITY, 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS. YOU DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE HAVE SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. HOWEVER, THE CASE THAT COMES TO MIND IS GOING TO BE AT SANTORINI, AND THAT DEVELOPMENT IS KIND OF A DIFFERENT ANIMAL ALTOGETHER. RIGHT. YOU'RE TALKING 1200 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, I THINK APPROXIMATELY 2000 APARTMENTS, BOWLING ALLEY WITH A TWO ACRE LAGOON, SWIM UP BAR, VIDEO GAME ARCADE, MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS. THEY DEDICATED LAND FOR A FIRE STATION. THEY PROVIDED FUNDS FOR A FIRE APPARATUS. IT'S KIND OF THIS MONSTER ALL ON ITS OWN, OF A HIGH END QUALITY DEVELOPMENT TO WHERE AT THE TIME, THE OUR PNC AND THE COUNCIL HAD SAID, WELL, WE WOULD ALLOW SOME 40 FOOT LOTS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THIS REALLY THIS TOP SHELF AMENITY PRODUCT THAT WILL PROBABLY SPUR A LARGE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO TO THAT SIDE OF SEAGOVILLE. THEY DO HAVE SOME 40 FOOT LOTS. AND IF YOU WERE TO DRIVE OUT THERE NOW, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE HOUSES BEING BUILT. AND AND THEY'RE PRETTY NICE HOMES. I MEAN, WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE MOVING THERE ALL THE TIME AND IT'S VERY BUSY, BUT THAT'S THE CLOSEST THING I CAN COMPARE IT TO. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE AMENITY PACKAGE SHOWN IN THIS SITE COMES CLOSE TO THAT.

THAT'S KIND OF JUST A MAJOR OUTLIER. THAT'S HARD TO TO DRAW COMPARISON, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE CLOSEST I CAN GET FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IF I MAY ADD, OUTSIDE OF SEAGOVILLE, OF COURSE, 40 FOOT LOTS ARE QUITE COMMON, AND IN FACT, THE BUILDERS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO HAVE EXPRESSED QUITE AN INTEREST OF HAVING 40 FOOT LOTS. THEY ARE, AND THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THIS ALL ACROSS DFW METROPLEX. SO IT'S NOT UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT JUST SEAGOVILLE HAS IT IN ONE AREA. BUT AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT THOSE AND WE PROVIDED SOME OF THE PRODUCTS, SAMPLES AND STUFF OR PICTURES RATHER TO THE STAFF AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE IN THE ECONOMIES THAT WE'RE IN THAT MAKES THE, TO BE HONEST, MAKES THE IT GETS THE DIVERSITY OF COURSE, FROM THE 50 TO 40 AND AS WELL AND, AND ALSO MAKES IT A BIT MORE AFFORDABLE. AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD, WHEN YOU HAVE 1000 OR 1500 UNITS, YOU KNOW, CARRYING SOMETHING THAT GORGEOUS AND THAT BIG AMENITY CENTER, IT'S COMING AT A COST.

IT'S AN HOA THAT HAS TO MAINTAIN IT. CAN A INDIVIDUAL LIVING IN A 644 UNIT, A 4 TO 400 MONTHLY HOA, COMPARED TO SOMEBODY WHO'S LIVING IN A 12 TO 1600 UNIT, AFFORD A 200 MONTHLY HOA. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT IS AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL A WORKFORCE COMMUNITY, A BEDROCK COMMUNITY, SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO LOOK AT ALL THE NUMBERS. AND THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDERS LOOK AT IS LIKE, WHO'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THIS? BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST BUILDING IT. WE COULD BUILD A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR GORGEOUS FACILITY, BUT THEN WHO'S GOING TO MAINTAIN IT? THE CITY CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN IT. SO THEN THE HOA HAS TO PICK IT UP AND THE HOA JUST PUTS IT BACK ON THE RESIDENTS. SO YOU ALWAYS WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING WHERE THE RESIDENTS CAN LIVE AND LIVE COMFORTABLY FOR 10 OR 20 YEARS, NOT FOR 2 OR 3, AND THEN CAN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE IF LIFE CHANGES ON THEM AND HALF THE TIME THEY MIGHT COME IN TO THE SALES OFFICE AND RECOGNIZE, OH, WAIT A MINUTE, I LOVE THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO USE IT MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR, MAYBE SIX, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY CHILDREN THEY HAVE AND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE THREE $400 HOA. SO THAT'S LIKE THINKING AHEAD. IT'S NOT JUST THE DEVELOPER STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU WHO HAS TO, YOU KNOW, GET THIS GOING. BUT THEN THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO LIVE IN IT AND PAY FOR IT. SO IT'S LIKE A LOT OF NUMBERS TO THINK ABOUT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. SO YOU'RE

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EXTENDING THE DRIVEWAY TO THE 25FT. THE LOTS ARE SMALLER, AND I SEE THAT THE HOUSES GOT SMALLER AS THE LOTS GOT SMALLER. AND WHEN WE THINK OF FAMILIES, THESE FAMILIES COME WITH CHILDREN. ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A YARD? YEAH, THE LOTS ARE DEEPER. SO THE DEPTH OF THE LOTS HAVEN'T CHANGED. RIGHT. SO THEY WILL HAVE BACKYARDS BUT IT'S THE FRONT YARD GOING TO BE CLOSER TO THE STREET. IT WON'T BE MORE THAN OBVIOUSLY THE 25FT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD FROM THE PROPERTY LINE THE GARAGE AT 25FT. SO THEY WILL BE SOME FRONT YARD AS WELL. THAT IS CORRECT. SO 120 FOOT DEPTH LOT IS IS MORE THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN NORMALLY 110 DEPTH IS WHAT'S NORMAL OUT THERE NOWADAYS BEING BUILT. SO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DEPTH TO DO YOUR EXTRA TEN FOOT BACKYARD. BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AFFORDABILITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN AFFORD A 450 OR $550,000 HOME, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN BUILT A WHILE BACK.

AND SO WHAT ARE THOSE NUMBERS LOOKING LIKE? AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE NEXT STEP UP.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE UP PEOPLE. SO THEN THEY CAN SELL THOSE HOUSES THAT THEY PAID 60, 70, 80,000 FOR AND NOW MOVE INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE A NICE 350 TO $400,000 RANGE. SO YOU MAY AS YOU BUILD BIGGER, IF YOU GO 2427, YOU CAN GO UP TO 3000FTā– !S ON THE HOUSES. WE'RE T SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT. IT DEPENDS ON THE DEMAND. SOMEONE CAN WALK INTO THE SALES OFFICE AND SAY, HEY, CAN I SEE ALL THAT YOU HAVE? ALL WE'RE SAYING IS THE BARE MINIMUM IS GOING TO BE THIS AMOUNT BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO COME IN AND SAY, THIS IS ALL I CAN AFFORD. CAN YOU BUILD ME THIS? AND WE'LL SAY, NO, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOME, BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU THE SMALLEST, WHICH IS THE 1500. AND HERE IS THESE THAT ARE LOCATED. YOU SEE, THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA. UNDERSTOOD. I GUESS FOR ME, YOU GUYS HAVE SOME REALLY NICE AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THERE. BUT DID YOU SUBTRACT FROM THE LOT SIZES TO ADD THESE AMENITIES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE UTILIZED? NO, BECAUSE WE WERE WENT FROM 700 LOTS, REMEMBER, TO 644. SO WE GOT WE WE LEFT THE THE HIGHER DENSITY ONE TO LOWER DENSITY. WE WENT FROM THE CONFUSION OF WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 10 OR 20 FOOT LOTS, OR THERE WERE A WHOLE CONDOMINIUM TOWNHOME REGIME, WHATEVER THAT 130 WAS GOING. WE GOT RID OF THAT AND WENT TO 40 FOOT AND 50 FOOT DESIGNATED, MAJORITY OF THEM BEING 50 FOOT STILL. YEAH, 80% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS 50 BY 120. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE YOU MENTIONED THE THERE'LL BE A IT SAYS AMENITY CENTER. CORRECT. AND I GUESS WHAT I SAW IN THE PICTURE HERE WAS A CABANA AND BATHROOMS AND A POOL. YEAH. WE DIDN'T HAVE A SAMPLE PICTURE OF THE AMENITY CENTER, THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY MOSTLY THE POOL IS THE MAIN SHOWCASE, THEIR ATTRACTION. AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE, OF COURSE, THE BASKETBALL COURT. RIGHT. AND THEN WITHIN THE POOL, WE AGREED WITH THE STAFF TO HAVE CABANAS AND SO FORTH. SO THE CENTER AMENITY CENTER ITSELF WILL HOUSE, YOU KNOW, BATHROOMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. IT WON'T HAVE LIKE A MEETING ROOM OR. NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. JUST THE BATHROOMS. YEAH. THAT'S AND THE AIR CONDITIONED BATHROOMS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. YEAH. YOU HAD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT SEVERAL OF THE SURROUNDING CITIES HAVE THE 40 HAVE QUITE A FEW OF THE 40 FOOT WIDTH LOTS.

WHAT CITIES ARE THOSE WHICH EVERY CITY, EVERY CITY HAS 40 FOOT AND NOW THEY'RE EVEN, LIKE SMALLER 20 AND 30 FOOT WIDE LOTS, 20 FOOT OR YOUR TOWNHOME LOTS 30 FOOT, 35 FOOT ARE YOUR SMALLER HOUSES. LAS COLINAS HAS 30 FOOT TINY LITTLE NARROW HOUSES THAT ARE IN THE 750,000 RANGE BECAUSE THERE'S NO MORE LAND OUT THERE, AND THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE AIRPORT, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THINGS. THERE'S SOME IN SALINA IN AND ALSO, WELL, IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, MESQUITE, GARLAND, MESQUITE. I BELIEVE THERE IS ONE IN MESQUITE. YES. 40 FOOT LOTS.

YEAH. YEAH. GARLAND CERTAINLY HAS IT AS WELL. CORRECT. THE NEWER BUILDS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE.

SO THEY'RE GOING SMALLER. WHEN YOU COMPARE SOMETHING WITH THE 1980S, 1990S BUILD EVEN UP TO 2012 BUILD, YOU KNOW, PRICES WERE DIFFERENT, LAND PRICES WERE DIFFERENT. LUMBER WAS LESS EXPENSIVE, EVERYTHING WAS LESS EXPENSIVE. SO THINGS WERE BUILT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PREACH, PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I SOUND LIKE THAT, BUT EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH EXPENSIVE. BUT OUR WAGES HAVEN'T INCREASED, SO WE HAVE THAT DISPARITY. SO WE'VE GOT TO HELP. AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT THIS HUGE HOUSING CRISIS IN DALLAS COUNTY, RIGHT? AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT JUST AVAILABLE ANYMORE, BUT WE'RE NOT QUITE AFFORDABLE. WE'RE WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO BE A MINIMUM 70,000 YEARLY SALARY. OTHERWISE YOU

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CAN'T AFFORD A HOUSE IN THE COMMUNITY WE'RE BUILDING. ANYBODY ELSE? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. I JUST HAVE A STATEMENT. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE BIGGER LOTS VERSUS A SMALLER LOTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION. SO THE SUBDIVISION NEXT TO US HAS 250 LOTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE THAT ARE 60 BY 120. GREENWALD HAS 30 BY 120 LOTS AND 50 BY 120. SO OURS IS LIKE THAT PERFECT CORRIDOR BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RIGHT THERE. SO A BUYER WOULD HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PICK 50 BY 120, A 40 BY 120. AND OUR COMMUNITY, THEY CAN PICK ALL THE 60 BY 120 NEXT TO US, AND THEN THEY CAN PICK SOME OF THE 30 BY 120 THAT GREENWALD HAS APPROVED. AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF HIS, I THINK THEY HAVE 50 BY 120. SO IT'S LIKE, RIGHT IN THAT LAST ROAD THAT IS GOING YOU HAVE ALL THAT MIX RIGHT THERE. IT WOULD BE AN OVERKILL TO HAVE 250 RIGHT NEXT TO US AND THEN STILL ADD A WHOLE BUNCH IN OURS. THAT'S THE REASON. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN. THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE SLIDES THAT CAUGHT MY EYE. COLLIN, DO YOU HAVE THE. CAN YOU GET THE CLICKER FOR ME, SIR? I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S AT. THANK YOU. COLIN. THANK YOU. WE JUST RECEIVED THESE SLIDES MAYBE TWO HOURS AGO AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. HADN'T PUT THIS IN FOR HIM. SO I WAS LOOKING AT THIS SLIDE HERE WHERE THEY'RE SHOWING THIS 25 FRONT YARD SETBACK. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR THAT THE PROPOSAL FOR 25FT CAME IN, OR I GUESS ADHERENCE TO 25FT CAME IN AFTER THE PACKET HAD BEEN RELEASED. SO THAT'S WHY YOU STILL SEE THAT 22FT IN HERE. SO ANY KIND OF MOTION OR ANYTHING DISCUSSION, JUST KIND OF KEEP THAT IN MIND. BUT WHAT CAUGHT MY EYE HERE ON THIS IS THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE LOCAL STREETS ANYWAY THAT SHOW A LANDSCAPE BUFFER OUTSIDE OF THE SIDEWALK. SO THIS SIX FOOT LANDSCAPING THAT YOU SEE THAT IS NOT CALLED OUT IN THEIR PD, THAT'S NOT IN THE PROPOSAL AT ALL. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS. NOW ON THE MAJOR COLLECTOR ROADWAYS LIKE LASSITER, YOU WILL HAVE LANDSCAPING AND STREET LIGHTS ON THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S STANDARD. BUT ON THE REGULAR STREETS AT THE HOME FRONT ON THIS IS IS NOT INCLUDED. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GREAT. IF WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT, WE WOULD NEED THAT IN WRITING REQUESTED FROM THE APPLICANT BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL TO DEPICT THE DRIVEWAY. RIGHT. SO NOT NECESSARILY SHOWING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT LASSITER WOULD HAVE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND STUFF. SMALLER STREETS WILL NOT. BUT THE IDEA HERE WAS TO SHOW THE 25 FOOT SETBACK. OKAY. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING LIKE THE SIDEWALK WOULDN'T THERE WOULD BE A CURB RIGHT OFF OF THE SIDEWALK? CORRECT. YOU'LL HAVE A SIDEWALK.

WE REQUIRE SIDEWALKS ON LOCAL STREETS. BUT THIS LANDSCAPE BUFFER, I LOVE STREET TREES. MY INNER CITY PLANNER IS EXCITED ABOUT STREET TREES, BUT THAT'S THIS WAS NEVER PROPOSED TO US.

OKAY, SO I JUST WANT I JUST WANTED CLARIFICATION. YOU BOTH HAVE GRASS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE YOUR FRONT YARD. WE WOULD WE WOULD LIKE THAT SHOWN IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL BEFORE IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL. SO HAVING THE GRASS AND THEN HAVING A TREE WOULD MEAN THAT ANOTHER HOW HOW HOW I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE SOME WAY TO WATER THOSE TREES. OTHERWISE THEY'LL JUST END UP DYING. AND THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, CONFIGURATION OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET MORE OF THAT. THAT'S AN ENGINEER QUESTION, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT I DON'T REALLY THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS SLIDE WAS TO GET THAT 25, BECAUSE WHEN I SEND YOU THE STUFF, I WAS HYPER FOCUSED ON, THE MOST LARGEST TRUCK THAT EXISTS IS AT 22 FOOT DEEP, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS IN SEAGOVILLE ARE USING 22 DEEP TRUCKS. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY DEEP, BUT I WAS JUST IN THAT MINDSET, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO PROPOSE AND PUT OUT WHEN I SEND THAT TO YOU. SO YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. SO BUT WE WILL HAVE THAT 25 THAT IS QUITE CONCERNING TO EVERYBODY. SO THE DRIVEWAYS WILL BE. AND JUST TO ADD, I MEAN I THINK THIS ONE STREET THEN THIS ONE REALLY FAST. YEAH. YOU WOULDN'T REALLY HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SPACE FOR THE ROOTS TO GROW AND ALL OF THAT. I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. SO THE, THE RIGHT OF

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WAY ITSELF IS 50FT. AND THEN OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK IT'S 26FT BACK A CURB, BACK A CURB COULD OR IS IT 32? GIVE ME A SECOND. YEAH. NO 26 AMENDING THAT. THAT'S STAYING. THAT'S STAYING THE SAME AS IT WAS THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020. WE HAVE A STANDARD FOR IT IN OUR ORDINANCE ALREADY, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN, THAT LAYS OUT THE THE WIDTH OF THE STREET. NO VARIANCE IS REQUESTED ON THAT. YEAH. I MEAN, SO THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR AMENDMENTS IS THE ONLY THING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU BROUGHT UP THIS IS THIS IS IN THE OLD MAGNOLIA SECTION, 26FT IN THE COTTAGE AREA. SO IT'S WIDER THAN THAT. I'D HAVE TO CHECK MY SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME. BECAUSE IF YOU GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS TODAY, THERE ARE SO MANY CARS PARKED ON THE STREETS THAT THEY'RE DANGEROUS. IT'S SUCH AN ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DRIVEWAY PARKING. AND THEN EVERYBODY PARKS ON THE STREET. IF YOU TRY TO DO ONE WAY PARKING ON THE STREET, THEN IF I GET HOME AT FOUR, I'M GOING TO PARK IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE BECAUSE HE DON'T GET HOME TILL SIX. AND WHEN HE GETS HOME, HE DON'T HAVE NOWHERE TO PARK. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE STREET WIDTH WAS, BECAUSE FOR ME, THAT IS A VERY BIG ISSUE WITH THE DRIVEWAYS BEING LARGE ENOUGH TO NOT JUST HOLD ONE BIG SUPER TRUCK, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS IN OUR AREA BECAUSE WE ARE SEMI-RURAL AND BUT IF YOU'VE GOT ONE FAMILY THAT'S GOT ONE KID, YOU'RE TALKING THREE CARS. AND SO HOW EVEN IF THEY'RE SMALL CARS, HOW DO YOU PARK SO TWO CAN GO IN THE GARAGE AND TWO ON THE DRIVEWAY SIDE BY SIDE. SO FOUR SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT, HOPEFULLY. I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO VEER IN THIS DIRECTION FOR ME. I WOULD LIKE TO NOT SEE ANY SMALLER LOTS. 40 FOOT ARE NOT AS SMALL AS YOU KNOW. THEY THEY SEEM TO BE. I MEAN, GREENWALT GOT APPROVED FOR 30. WE WERE APPROVED IN 2022 FOR A LOT SMALLER. SO WE'RE REQUESTING A OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOME DECENT HOUSING ON A VACANT CURRENT AGRICULTURAL LAND. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED WHERE THE NUMBERS WOULD WORK FOR THE BUILDERS AS WELL. SO, MRS. WILLIAMS, IF YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS WHOLE CRISIS IS COMING IN, IS WE'RE TRYING TO FIT WHERE WE LOST THE 700 LOTS BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO NEGOTIATE WITH SELLERS WHEN THEY OWN LAND, AND THEN TO HAVE TWO INDEPENDENT AND TO PUT, YOU KNOW, 5 OR 6 PARCELS TOGETHER. SO IT'S BEEN A BIT EXHAUSTING. AND SO WE'RE COMING TO A POINT WHERE THIS IS WHERE THE NUMBERS WORK AND PANS OUT REALLY WELL. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'VE GOT THAT 4050 MIX. BUT 60% OF IT IS DEFINITELY 50 BY 120. SO IT'S A NICE HOUSE. 40 ARE NOT AS TINY. THEY MAY SEEM THAT WAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT. MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN A 35 BY 90 LOT, SO AND THEY LIVE IN RICHARDSON. SO BILL, I'M SEEING ON PAGE THREE OF THE CURRENT THE FOR TO ANSWER HER QUESTION ABOUT HOW WIDE THE STREETS WERE. IT SAYS THE COTTAGES AT 26FT WIDE. BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD WE FALL BACK TO? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A HIGHER STANDARD IN OUR TECHNICAL CONSTRUCTION MANUAL THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THAT IS WIDER THAN 26FT. I JUST CAN'T FIND THAT NUMBER WITH ME. I'VE EVEN TEXTED OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR TO SEE IF HE HAS THAT. BUT I DON'T HAVE IT. IT'S DEFINITELY WIDER THAN 26FT. OUR MINIMUM WIDTH FOR A FIRE LANE IS 24FT, AND SO IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER THAN THAT.

I WANT TO SAY 32, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER WITH ME. THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO FIND HERE. BUT I WILL FIND THAT AND MAKE SURE IT'S MEMORIZED FROM NOW ON. BUT IT DEFINITELY HASN'T CHANGED. WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A VARIANCE OR ANYTHING FROM WHAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED ON THAT IN FROM 2022. I MEAN, WE'RE IN ALMOST END OF 2025, SO I'M REALLY HOPING TODAY WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS APPROVED AND MOVE FORWARD, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE SO MUCH MORE WORK TO DO. WE'VE ALREADY SPENT $1 MILLION SO FAR, CONSTANT CHANGING, TRYING TO GET SOMETHING TO WORK. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC

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HEARING AT 741. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'M SORRY, A MOTION TO NOT APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME. I HAVE A MOTION TO DENY. NEED A SECOND? I SECOND THE DENIED. GOT A SECOND? ALL IN FAVOR? MAY I APPROACH? NO, MA'AM. IT'S.

IT'S CLOSED ALREADY. I MEAN, LIKE, CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHY WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE IN ORDER FOR IT NOT TO BE DENIED? I DON'T KNOW. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. DO WE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? NOTHING AT THIS TIME, SIR. OKAY. CLOSE THE MEETING AT

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