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YEAH. SHE'LL BE HERE TONIGHT. YEAH. BRING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS MONDAY, DECEMBER
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THE 8TH AT 6:30 P.M. THIS IS THE WORK SESSION. AND THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS.MISS LINDBERG WILL BE PRESENTING THIS. IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND DANCE AND SING AND WHATEVER. AND WE'LL APPRECIATE THAT. GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD. THE BLIND BARBER REPRESENTING. THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HOME TO KEEP IT SHORT. SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY DETAIL OF MY. OH, THERE WE GO. Y'ALL HEAR ME BETTER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU SARAH. SO, SO I WAS TOLD ONCE AGAIN I WAS TOLD TO KEEP IT SHORT. SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS STUFF. Y'ALL PLEASE INTERRUPT ME IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE TAX COLLECTION PROCESS, BUT I'LL HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS AND KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID FOR YOU. SO WHAT LINEBARGER DOES FOR YOU IS WE COLLECT YOUR DELINQUENT TAXES AND YOUR DELINQUENT FINES AND FEES ON YOUR TRAFFIC TICKETS. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE CONTEXT OF WHAT I'M GOING TO VISIT ABOUT TODAY. AND I'VE GOT A PRESENTATION HERE.
THERE WE GO. AND I'LL START OUT THIS IS THIS IS YOUR LINEBARGER TEAM. THESE ARE ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON YOUR BEHALF. THIS IS OUT OF OUR DALLAS OFFICE. BUT YOU CAN SEE ALL THE ALL THE GROUP OF FOLKS THAT WE HAVE WORKING ON YOUR BEHALF. WE REPRESENT OVER 85 ENTITIES IN THE DALLAS COUNTY AREA AND OVER 2200 GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, OFFICES IN 12 STATES. WE ARE THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT COLLECTIONS LAW FIRM IN THE COUNTRY. THE BENEFIT TO YOU IN THAT IS, IS THAT YOU GET ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE USE FOR FOR ALL OF OUR LARGER CITIES DALLAS, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, FORT WORTH. WE CAN USE THOSE ON YOUR BEHALF. AND HOPEFULLY YOU FEEL LIKE YOU GET THE SAME QUALITY OF REPRESENTATION AND ACCESS TO ME AND ANY OF OUR OTHER STAFF THAT YOU EVER NEED. SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL. MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS GOING TO BE AT THE BACK OF THIS, BUT IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, Y'ALL, Y'ALL CALL ME AND I'M GLAD TO TO COME VISIT AND TAKE CARE OF THINGS. HOPEFULLY Y'ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT OVER THE YEARS. HERE ARE OUR VALUES. AND OF COURSE THOSE THOSE VALUES ARE ARE COMMENSURATE WITH YOUR VALUES SO THAT YOU SEE THAT LAST ONE THERE. THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE STRIVE TO DO IS REPRESENT YOU IN A WAY THAT YOU WOULD REPRESENT YOURSELVES.
WE'RE ALWAYS OUT IN YOUR COMMUNITY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU AND THOSE VALUES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE. ALONG WITH THAT, WHILE WE ARE A COLLECTION FIRM, WE'RE ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BE MEAN RUDE ON, YOU KNOW, ON PERSONABLE TO TO FOLKS. WE WANT TO BE PROFESSIONAL AND WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO WORK OUT AGREEMENTS BEFORE WE EVER GO TO COURT. SO HERE IS WHAT WE DO FOR YOU. ON PAGE FOUR. WE COLLECT YOUR DELINQUENT PROPERTY TAXES. AND OF COURSE WE'RE A LAW FIRM.
SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT US DOING THIS FOR YOU IS THAT WE ARE LICENSED IN EVERY STATE, EVERY COURT IN THE STATE, BUT WE'RE ALSO LICENSED IN THE FEDERAL COURTS, AND WE'RE LICENSED IN 48 OUT OF THE 50 STATES. WE HAVE AN ATTORNEY LICENSED IN THOSE STATES. NOW, WHY WOULD THAT BE IMPORTANT TO YOU? WELL, IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THAT FILED BANKRUPTCY, THOSE BANKRUPTCIES OCCUR ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND SO WE'RE ACTIVELY GOING THROUGH AND LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE BANKRUPTCY, BANKRUPTCY THAT'S FILED IN THE COUNTRY TO MAKE SURE YOU OR ANY OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS DON'T HAVE TAXES DUE. IF YOU DO, WE'RE GOING TO FILE A CLAIM ON YOUR BEHALF, WHETHER YOU GET THE NOTICE OR NOT. WE GO AHEAD AND FILE A CLAIM ON YOUR BEHALF. SO WE'RE REPRESENTING SEAGOVILLE AND ALL OF OUR OTHER CLIENTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ALSO HANDLE OUR OWN APPEALS. WE HANDLE IT THROUGH THE APPEALS COURT UP TO THE SUPREME COURT. WE DON'T FARM THAT WORK OUT. AND I'M LICENSED IN THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN DISTRICT FEDERAL COURTS JUST IN CASE THERE'S THERE'S ISSUES. WE'VE HAD EPA ISSUES. WE HAVE FEDERAL FORFEITURES, CRIMINAL FORFEITURE TYPE PROCEEDINGS. WE'RE THERE TO HANDLE COLLECTIONS. WHEN ANY OF THOSE THINGS HAPPEN AS WELL. AND SOMETHING I DIDN'T MENTION IS WE HAVE FULL TIME STAFF DOWN IN AUSTIN THAT THAT TWO ATTORNEYS DOWN THERE THAT JUST KEEP UP WITH THE LAWS AND TRY TO KEEP AN UPDATE AND WE SEND OUT AN UPDATE, A LEGISLATIVE UPDATE.
Y'ALL MAY OR MAY NOT RECEIVE THAT, BUT IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN IT, WE CAN PUT YOU ON THE EMAIL LIST. AND AS AS THE CONGRESS IS IN SESSION DOWN THERE, THE REPRESENTATIVES ARE IN SESSION. WE SEND OUT UPDATES ON WHAT THE BILLS ARE AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THOSE BILLS. YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WHERE THEY ARE IN THE STATUS AND ALL OF THAT. SO WE TRY TO KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED. WE PARTICULARLY EMPHASIZE THE TAX WORK. BUT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU GUYS AS FAR AS YOUR BUDGET GOES. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU IF YOU WANT HOLLER AT ME LATER AND I CAN GET YOU SIGNED UP FOR THAT. YES,
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SIR. OKAY. NOW THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO CUT SOME TIME OUT. OUT OF THIS. THIS IS A BIG A BIG SLIDE WITH A LOT OF STUFF. I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS ON HERE. SO OUR COLLECTION PROCESS THIS SHOWS YOU EVERYTHING WE DO. WE MAKE PHONE CALLS. WE MAKE SITE VISITS. WE'RE TALKING TO TAXPAYERS. WE'RE SENDING OUT LETTERS. AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN WE'RE FILING LAWSUITS AND FORECLOSING ON PROPERTY. WE CAN WE CAN TAKE PROPERTY AND SELL IT EITHER THROUGH A TAX WARRANT OR THROUGH A SHERIFF'S SALE. SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE THE LAST STEP IF WE HAVE TO GET THERE. THE IMPORTANT DATES ON HERE IS, IS APRIL 1ST. AND JULY 1ST IS WHEN THE DELINQUENT TAXES ARE TURNED OVER TO US. SO EVERYBODY GETS A TAX BILL SOMETIME IN OCTOBER ISH. YOU'VE GOT UNTIL ABOUT FEBRUARY 1ST TO PAY IT WITHOUT ANY PENALTY OR INTEREST. THEN YOU'RE DELINQUENT FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE IT GETS TURNED OVER TO THE LAW FIRM. THE NICE PART ABOUT LETTING US COLLECT IT IS THE WAY THE LAW IS SET UP IS THE CITY NEVER GETS A BILL FROM US. ALL OF OUR WORK IS IS COST FREE TO THE CITY, EITHER ON THE FINES AND FEES SIDE AND ON THE TAX SIDE. THOSE COSTS ARE A PENALTY THAT ARE ADDED TO A TAX BILL. SO IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T PAY THEIR BUSINESS TAXES BY APRIL 1ST, OR IF THEY DON'T PAY THEIR REAL PROPERTY TAXES BY JULY 1ST, THEN OUR FEE GETS ADDED ON AS A PENALTY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE COLLECT. AND WE DON'T GET PAID UNLESS WE COLLECT IT FOR YOU. SO THAT'S OUR INCENTIVE IS IF WE WANT TO GET PAID, WE HAVE TO COLLECT YOUR MONEY. SO THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. IF Y'ALL EVER IF Y'ALL EVER NEED TO CALL ME, YOU NEED TO EMAIL OR YOU NEED TO JUST A CONVERSATION OR SOMETHING. IT'S NOT GOING TO COST YOU ANYTHING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND YOU A BILL BY THE HOUR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. WE COVER THE COST OF THE LETTERS, THE POSTAGE, ANY, ANY COURT COSTS THAT ARE THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT. WE COVER ALL OF THAT OUT OF WHAT WE GET PAID. THIS SLIDE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER TOO MUCH. THIS WAS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT. WE ADDED THIS SLIDE INTO THIS PRESENTATION WHEN COVID WAS IN FULL FORCE. WE HAD TO MAKE SPECIAL PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS, AND REALLY WE JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO PAY WHAT THEY COULD. AND IT TURNS OUT WE HAD SOME OF OUR HIGHEST COLLECTION YEARS THROUGH THE THROUGH THE COVID ERA, BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE AT HOME AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE THEIR HOMES. SO WE GOT HIGHER, HIGHER UP THE PRIORITY LIST AS FAR AS PAYMENT GOES THROUGH THAT TIME. NOW IT'S GOTTEN TOUGHER TO COLLECT SINCE COVID. AND SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN A MINUTE. WE HAVE HAD TO FILE MORE LAWSUITS HERE RECENTLY BECAUSE THE ECONOMY HAS KIND OF GONE DOWN. AND AS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY, YOU KNOW, OUR JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP YOUR BILLS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOT TO CHOOSE BETWEEN PAYING CREDIT CARDS AND PAYING THE TAXES. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEY GET THEIR TAXES PAID. AND THAT'S AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON YOUR BEHALF. SO HERE'S THE NUMBERS IN 2023. WHAT YOU TURNED OVER TO US. SO IF YOU IF YOU REALIZE YOU'RE NOT PAYING YOUR TAXES UNTIL A YEAR LATER.SO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS ASSESSED ON JANUARY 1ST? YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY IT UNTIL JANUARY OF THE NEXT YEAR, BASICALLY. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 23 AND WHAT WE COLLECTED FOR FOR 23 AND 24, WHAT WE WHAT WE RECEIVED IN 25. SO IN 23, YOU GAVE US $267,000 TO COLLECT. IN 24 WE WERE GIVEN ABOUT 300,000. SO IT'S FAIRLY CONSISTENT. IT WAS ABOUT 13% HIGHER. WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US THIS YEAR OVER WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US LAST YEAR. AND THIS IS KIND OF HOW IT BREAKS DOWN ON ON THAT CIRCLE ON THE RIGHT. A GOOD THING FOR, FOR THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE IS THAT THE PREDOMINANT AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY THAT'S DELINQUENT IS REAL PROPERTY, AND THOSE ARE HIGHLY COLLECTIBLE AND ALMOST 100% COLLECTIBLE. IF IT'S REAL PROPERTY, THE BUSINESS PROPERTY IS A LITTLE BIT TOUGHER TO COLLECT. AND SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE HAVE SOME UNCOLLECTIBLE ACCOUNTS ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, THAT'S GENERALLY GOING TO BE BUSINESS PROPERTY WHERE THERE'S NO THE OWNER'S GONE. IT WAS A CORPORATION. THERE'S NO NO NO ONE TO HOLD LIABLE. THERE'S NO PROPERTY LEFT. THAT BUSINESS IS JUST GONE. THE PROPERTY IS GONE.
THERE'S NO WAY TO COLLECT IT. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IN THE UNCOLLECTIBLE PORTION. BUT IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. MAYBE THE NEXT SLIDE AFTER THIS ONE. THIS ONE I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO TOO MUCH, BUT IT SHOWS YOU THE TOTAL TAX DUE OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT. AND IT BREAKS DOWN THE ACCOUNTS BY THEIR SIZE. SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO DIG INTO THE NUMBERS AND SEE YOU'VE GOT 22 ACCOUNTS THAT ARE OVER $5,000, AND THAT'S 3% OF THE TOTAL THAT'S DUE 203 ACCOUNTS THAT ACCOUNT FOR ABOUT 25% THAT ARE BETWEEN 1000 AND $5000. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR LAWSUITS. IT COSTS ANYWHERE FROM ABOUT $400 UP TO $2,000 IN COURT COSTS, MAYBE SOMETIMES HIGHER THAN THAT, TO FILE A SUIT. SO WE DON'T TYPICALLY FILE A LAWSUIT ON ON SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE 3 OR $400. BUT AS AS IT ADDS UP, WE WILL GET INTO IT. IF THERE ARE PARTICULAR PIECES OF PROPERTY OR ACCOUNTS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A
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NUMBER OF YEARS AND THE CITY HAS AN ISSUE AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ENFORCED, THERE IS NO LIMIT ON WHAT WE CAN FILE LAWSUITS ON. SO Y'ALL PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT ARE PROBLEMS OR ISSUES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON THOSE ACCOUNTS. OKAY. SO THIS SLIDE IN PARTICULAR I WANT TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT MIDDLE, THAT LITTLE PAC-MAN LOOKING PIE CHART RIGHT THERE OF OF PARTICULAR SIGNIFICANCE TO THE CITY WHERE YOU SEE THAT ORANGE PIECE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S 17.4%.THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT IT SAYS ARE ON HOLD. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THOSE ARE TYPICALLY PROPERTIES THAT HAVE A DEFERRAL AND OVER 65 HOMESTEAD DEFERRAL. AND WHAT THE HOLD MEANS IS THAT WE CAN'T TOUCH IT. SO 17% OF YOUR DELINQUENT TAX ROLL, WE CAN'T WE CAN'T SEND LETTERS OUT ON WE CAN'T FILE LAWSUITS ON WE CAN'T TOUCH IT. AND THAT'S BASICALLY BECAUSE IT'S SOMEBODY'S HOMESTEAD THAT'S OVER 65. GENERALLY THAT'S THE LARGEST PORTION. THAT'S A GOOD THING. BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE WORKING ON YOUR BUDGETS AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUCKET OF DELINQUENT MONEY THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY COLLECT, OF COURSE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO WE WE'RE NOT CAPABLE OF COLLECTING 100% EVERY YEAR ALL THE TIME.
BUT BUT OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE COLLECTING AT LEAST ENOUGH TO MEET YOUR BUDGET. AND MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OLD YEARS. SO WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COLLECTING 100% OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE PROJECTING EVERY YEAR. SO THAT THAT IS THE PRIMARY GOAL. AND AND THAT'S NOT EASY TO DO. BUT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DO THAT. WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO STRIVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE DID THE LAST YEAR. BUT ULTIMATELY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN MEET YOUR BUDGET THAT YOU SET UP TO. SO AS LONG AS WE'RE DOING THAT, WE'RE KEEPING THINGS CONSISTENT FOR YOU.
YOU'RE NOT SEEING A A DROP IN WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE NEEDING AS FAR AS FUNDS EVERY YEAR FOR YOUR FOR YOUR UTILITY WORK AND YOUR AND ALL OF YOUR PROJECTS THAT THE CITY HAS GOING ON.
THAT'S OUR GOAL, IS TO MAKE SURE YOUR BUDGET HITS 100% EVERY YEAR. AND SO THIS IS THE WHAT DID WE DO FOR YOU SLIDE. WE COLLECTED $347,000 FOR THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE FOR THE DELINQUENT TAXES. AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE FILED 16 LAWSUITS AND TRIED 14 MORE. WE HAD SIX BANKRUPTCIES THAT I WAS KIND OF VISITING WITH YOU ABOUT, THAT WE WE JUMPED IN AND REPRESENTED THE CITY ON MADE 34 SITE VISITS, HAD 11 SHERIFF SALES WHICH MEAN WE SOLD, WHICH MEANS WE SOLD 11 PROPERTIES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY TO COLLECT YOUR TAXES. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'VE SENT LETTERS OUT AND MADE A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS. AND THE PRIMARY MEANS OF OF COLLECTING THESE, THESE TAXES ARE GOING TO BE, ARE GOING TO BE PHONE CALLS AND LETTERS. IT'S THE COMMUNICATION THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT PART ABOUT WHAT WE DO. AND SO 90% OF OUR JOB IS JUST FINDING PEOPLE TO TALK TO AND THEN LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM. HERE ARE THE NUMBERS RELATED TO YOUR FINES AND FEES. AND SO HOW DOES HOW DOES THE FINES AND FEES WORK? WELL, WHENEVER THOSE THOSE. AND SOPHRONIA IS HERE WITH ME AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T INTRODUCE THEM EARLIER. SO SOPHRONIA JOHNSON HERE AND YESENIA VALDEZ ARE HERE WITH ME. YESENIA IS YOUR CLIENT LIAISON. AND SO SHE'S GOING TO HAVE THE PRIMARY CONTACT WITH YOU ON A DAILY BASIS IS A LOT OF TIMES OUT HERE DOING SITE VISITS AND AND JUST IN YOUR COMMUNITY A LOT.
SOPHRONIA IS OUR WHAT'S YOUR OFFICIAL TITLE MANAGER? FINES AND FEES. PROJECT MANAGER.
SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER. SHE'S SHE'S BEEN WITH THE LAW FOR HOW MANY YEARS? 23. 23. OKAY. SHE RUNS OUR FINES AND FEES DEPARTMENT OUT OF THE DALLAS OFFICE AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT I CANNOT ANSWER. SO IF YOU HAVE FINES AND FEES QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO SOPHRONIA BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THESE COMPUTER SYSTEMS BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND HOW THESE ARE ALL SET UP. BUT THESE THESE ARE OUR TRAFFIC TICKETS THAT SOMEBODY DID NOT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH ON THEIR PAY AGREEMENTS. MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP IN A WARRANT WAS ISSUED. THESE THESE ARE REALLY OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS FAR AS THESE ARE FINDING FOLKS TO GET THEM TO PAY. ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO ALLOWING US TO DO THIS WORK FOR YOU IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE A NATIONWIDE LAW FIRM, SOMETIMES WE GET SOMEBODY THAT'S DRIVING THROUGH SEAGOVILLE IT'S NOT YOUR OWN CITIZENS, MAYBE THAT THAT HAVE THE MOST DELINQUENCIES. IT'S PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DRIVING THROUGH, GOT A TICKET, NEVER INTENDED TO PAY. WELL, WE MIGHT FIND THAT PERSON IN MIAMI. WE MIGHT FIND THEM UP IN OREGON IF THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC TICKET AND WE FOUND THEM FOR SOME OTHER STATE OR SOME OTHER TICKET, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THEM IF THEY WANT TO PAY THIS ONE TOO. SO SOMETIMES WE GET THOSE COLLECTED JUST THAT WAY. BUT THE BUT THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS, IS WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND ON SKIP TRACING TOOLS AND SOFTWARE IN THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF SKIP TRACING THAT YOU CAN HAVE SHORT OF FBI, CIA, WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THAT KIND OF STUFF. NOW, YOUR OWN OFFICERS MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM IF THEY FIND THEM. AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE, YOU KNOW,
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YOUR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE IT AND HELP ENABLE THEM TO, TO EXERCISE WARRANTS, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. SO WE WORK WITH OUR, OUR COMMUNITIES IN THAT WAY ALL THE TIME. SO HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE ON ON YOUR FINES AND FEES COLLECTIONS.WE COLLECTED $125,000 PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT LAST YEAR FOR FINES AND FEES. AND IN TOTAL, SINCE YOU HIRED US, WE'VE COLLECTED OVER 1.3 MILLION ON JUST YOUR TRAFFIC TICKET COLLECTIONS. SO THAT SEEMS PRETTY GOOD. PRETTY GOOD FOR THE CITY. WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL ON THAT. WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO TO BUILD ON THAT FOR YOU. SO THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT WE DO FOR YOU. I HOPE THAT WAS NOT TOO, TOO LONG. AND THAT WAS QUICK AND TO THE POINT. AS YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ARE OUT IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU'LL SEE US OUT AND ABOUT AND AROUND. IF HE HAS PARTICULAR EVENTS, WE WANT TO COME SHARE THOSE WITH YOU. WE WANT TO COME SEE WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY. SO Y'ALL, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN VOLUNTEER FOR OR PARTICIPATE IN. PLEASE GIVE US A HOLLER. WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT. AND THERE'S YOUR TEAM MEMBERS. SO IF YOU EVER NEED ANYBODY, Y'ALL CAN PLEASE LOOK AT THIS PAGE. I'M RIGHT THERE. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME OR ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PAGE IF YOU NEED. IF YOU NEED TO GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY, Y'ALL CAN CALL THOSE NUMBERS AND WE'RE GLAD TO HELP YOU WITH WHATEVER IT IS. SO IF YOU SEE ANDY AND SOPHRONIA THERE, THEY CAN HELP YOU WITH FINES AND FEES, QUESTIONS AND ALL OF THE TAX WORK. YOU KIND OF GET ALL THOSE FOLKS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THAT PAGE. AND THAT BRINGS US BACK TO TO YOUR SCHEDULE THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME COME COME OUT. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, IT'S SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME COME OUT. THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU MA'AM.
MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE IN THE WORK SESSION. THIS IS BROUGHT BY COUNCIL MEMBER HERNANDEZ. I'LL LET HIM HAVE THE FLOOR. SO. HAD A BUSINESS OWNER. I'M TALKING ABOUT.
TRACTOR TRAILER PARKING IN THEIR DRIVEWAY. I GUESS THEY PARKED ON SIMON'S TO GO TO THE.
OTHER HOME OR THEIR BUSINESS. SO I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'LL BRING IT UP TO COUNCIL, SEE IF WE WANT TO PARKING SIGNS ON THAT SIDE OF SIMON'S. IT'S THERE. IT'S HERE TONIGHT. BUT ANY OTHER UPDATES OR ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS TO HELP? OH. WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATES.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP. OKAY. SIGNS. WHAT'S THAT SOMETHING WE NEED. SIGNS. YEAH.
FOR THEIR BUSINESS. ALL THE WAY UP TO THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY OF THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
THEY'RE NOT PARKING ON, YOU KNOW, BLOCKING SIMON'S TRAFFIC. YEAH, CHURCH RIGHT THERE TO.
RIGHT. ALRIGHT. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN THE WORK SESSION, BILL MEDINA, HE'S BACK THERE SOMEWHERE. YEAH. GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL. SO WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN YOUR PACKET IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR ARE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO SEVERAL OF OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH A PAST FEW MONTHS. WE'VE RECEIVED FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL. AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS TO RECEIVE DIRECTION OR ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK OR ANY CHANGES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S COME UP. IS REGARDING THE MOBILE FOOD UNITS OR FOOD TRUCKS. IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED TO REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THESE FOOD UNITS TO OPERATE WITHIN NONCOMMERCIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SEEMS LIKE THE COUNCIL WAS OPEN TO THAT OR, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THAT IDEA. IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THAT MAY MAY BE TOO RESTRICTIVE AND TO KIND OF LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES. ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT WE RECEIVED OR THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AN OPTION FOR TONIGHT, IS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR FOOD TRUCKS TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITHIN THESE NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, BUT LIMIT HOW MANY CAN BE ON ANY
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SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY, BEING ONLY ONE PER ONE ACRE OF LAND, OR IF IT'S SMALLER THAN ONE ACRE, YOU'RE STILL ALLOWED ONE MOBILE FOOD UNIT. SO WE'RE SEEKING DIRECTION TONIGHT AS TO WHICH WAY THE COUNCIL IS KIND OF MORE SUPPORTIVE OF OR RECEIVE FEEDBACK. JUST SO THAT WAY, WHEN WE COME BACK FOR FORMAL ADOPTION OF ALL THESE ORDINANCES, WE HAVE THE RIGHT DOCUMENTS IN FRONT OF YOU. WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE LESS THAN AN ACRE, MAYBE AT LEAST TWO FOOD TRUCKS. I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S ON THAT ACRE ALREADY OR LESS THAN THE COMMERCIAL, I MEAN, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. YEAH. BUT LIKE FOR INSTANCE. WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. RIGHT? IT'S HYPOTHETICALLY THE EXXON. IT'S VERY TIGHT WITH THE BUILDING, THE GAS PUMPS THERE. RIGHT.THEY HAD TWO FOOD TRUCKS AND THERE'S A VERY POPULAR FOOD TRUCK. I CAN SEE AND I KNOW IT'S A BUSINESS UP TO THE BUSINESS OWNER DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT'S GOING TO BE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC FOR MY PUMP, TRAFFIC FOR MY GASOLINE TRAFFIC, MY TRAFFIC. JUST TO ME, I SEE IT BEING A PROBLEM ON THE STREET. PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET OR WALKING GO GET THEIR FOOD RIGHT NOW I GET THAT. BUT THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THAT. THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES. BUT HOW DO YOU SAY YES OVER HERE? NO OVER HERE. UNLESS YOU GO TO THE SOUP.
PROBLEM WITH THE SOUP, IT WOULD TAKE 6 TO 8 WEEKS TO GET AN SUV. AND IT GOES TO PLANNING AND ZONING. CITY COUNCIL. OKAY, A LITTLE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR. WANT TO WAIT THAT LONG FOR AN SEC? WE'RE NOT. PROBABLY NOT. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU WANT TO DO HALF ACRE, ONE PER ACRE.
RIGHT? BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE OF BUSINESS IS ON THAT PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, GUITAR SHOP, IT WOULD BE FINE BECAUSE IT'S NOT DOESN'T HAVE GASOLINE GOING PUMPS BEING SERVED.
PEOPLE AREN'T GOING IN AND OUT GETTING FOOD FROM THE. OH, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULD HAVE COME TO WOULD PROBABLY BE FINE. RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF GETTING AT. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE BUSINESSES CLOSE AND YOU GOT OPEN SPACE RIGHT THERE, THEN AND I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BE, IT'LL BE KIND OF CONTRADICTORY BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE A GAS STATION THAT WANTS TO, BUT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T FIT THAT IN THERE, WHICH WE HAVE THE GAS PUMPS AND, AND THAT THAT PROPERTY BEING SMALLER THAN THE OTHER PROPERTIES. I MEAN, THE OTHER OPTION IS LEAVE IT UP TO THE. MANAGER OR DESIGNEES. CORRECTION OR I'M TRYING TO. YEAH, THIS THAT WOULD BE FINE. I DON'T SEE THAT BEING THE NEWS, BUT HE WOULD A COMPACT AREA. BUT I GUESS HE WOULD CITY MANAGER WOULD IT WOULD BE UP TO THE HEALTH INSPECTOR. RIGHT. OR THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT THAT GOES IN THAT AREA. YOU WERE DESIGNATED TO. YES. BUT I WANT TO ASK VICTORIA, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WITH THE NEW STATE LAW. WE'RE A LITTLE BIT LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN REGULATE. THE FOOD TRUCKS TO DO. YEAH, WE CAN STILL REGULATE THEIR LOCATION. WE GENERALLY DO THAT BY ZONING, LIKE WITH AN SUP. THE PROBLEM WITH TRYING TO CRAFT A SPECIFIC A NON ZONING SPECIFIC REGULATION WOULD BE HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THAT. YOU KNOW, IF IF YOU'RE GOING TO ONLY ALLOW SAY LET'S SAY FOR AN EXAMPLE, TWO MOBILE FOOD UNITS ON A PARCEL ONE ACRE OR OR SMALLER. THEY'RE MOBILE RIGHT. SO SO HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THAT WHEN YOU ON ANY GIVEN DAY THERE MAY BE THREE THERE, YOU KNOW, IS IT WHO GETS THERE FIRST? YOU KNOW, IT. IT'S KIND OF FRAUGHT WITH LEGAL ISSUES IN THE ENFORCEMENT CATEGORY TO TO DO IT THAT WAY. IT I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY WHY MOST PEOPLE DO USE THE SUP OR, OR AN ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT JUST GOVERNS IT AND ALLOWS IT BY RIGHT, ONLY IN CERTAIN DISTRICTS BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU IT'S IT'S EASY TO ENFORCE. BUT DON'T THEY HAVE TO GO TO THAT PROPERTY WHERE THEY WANT TO STATION THEIR TRAILER SLASH RV OR WHATEVER AND GET PERMISSION FROM THEM AND HAVE IT WRITTEN AND SEND IT TO THE CITY. SO THAT WAY YOU CAN'T HAVE 2 OR 3 UNLESS YOU GET PERMISSION FROM THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY. ALSO THOUGH.
YEAH, BUT JOHN, WHAT HAPPENS IF IF I MAKE A DEAL WITH A PROPERTY OWNER AND SAY, HEY,
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MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, I WANT TO BE AT YOUR LOCATION. THE GUY SAY, GIVE ME TUESDAY, THURSDAY. SATURDAY. AND THE OTHER GUY SAYS, I WANT TO BE HERE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, BUT AT ONE TIME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO FOOD TRUCKS. OKAY, BUT THAT'S FINE. YOU WON'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO. BUT LET'S JUST SAY THEN THEY ALL DECIDE TO OPERATE AT THE SAME TIME. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S UP TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE SURE HE'S ALWAYS ENFORCING JUST TO FOOD TRUCKS. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT THE THAT'S WHAT THE CONTRACT WOULD BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT PROPER LICENSE, PROPER EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED. BUT THEN AGAIN, LIKE WE SAID, THAT'D BE UP TO CITY MANAGER, I GUESS TO. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU WANT TO ALLOW MORE THAN ONE FOOD TRUCK ON LESS THAN AN ACRE, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH SPACE THERE IS.THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY STAFF, RIGHT? BY THE CITY MANAGER, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE A CASE BY CASE, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND AGAINST THAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SO FACT SPECIFIC. YEAH. IT'S JUST GOING IT IS FRAUGHT WITH LEGAL CHALLENGE THERE IF WE'RE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO JUST USE OUR OWN SUBJECTIVE JUDGMENT AND DECIDE WHETHER THIS IS ONE WHERE YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE CONCRETE GUIDANCE FOR STAFF TO MAKE A DECISION. ABSOLUTELY. I WILL SAY I WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AFTER SOME CONVERSATIONS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. CITY OF FORNEY REQUIRES AN SUP FOR FOOD TRUCKS, SODAS, GARLAND AND BALCH SPRINGS. REQUIRES A TEMPORARY USE PERMIT WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AT A LOCATION FOR FIVE DAYS AT A TIME, NO MORE THAN FOUR TIMES A YEAR. I'VE ALSO SEEN TERRELL WILL JUST PERMIT THEM BY RIGHT AND IN MOST NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO IT IS REALLY KIND OF A MIXED BAG LOOKING AT WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING WHERE THERE'S THERE'S VERY RESTRICTIVE, IT SOUNDS LIKE, REGARDING THE ZONING AND WHERE THEY CAN OPERATE AND WHEN VERSUS OTHERS THAT ARE JUST SAYING, YEAH, JUST COME IN AND GET YOUR HEALTH INSPECTION PERMIT, YOUR FIRE PERMIT AND, AND GO AHEAD AND SET UP WITH, WITH CONSENT FROM THE OWNER. SO BILL AND. IF SUP TIED TO A SPECIFIC LOCATION OR COULD WE SAY BY RIGHT OF ZONING YOU CAN HAVE A FOOD TRUCK, BUT THE SUP WOULD BE FOR THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATOR ANYWHERE IN THE CITY, AS LONG AS THEY GOT PERMISSION FROM THAT PROPERTY OWNER IN THAT PROPERTY ZONED AREA. REMEMBER THE OTHER PROBLEM WITH AN SUP? SAY I GET AN APP FOR TAXES AND BUT I ALSO GOT AN OPPORTUNITY CAME FOR ME TO PARK OVER HERE ON THE SIDE. BUT I HAVE TO GO GET ANOTHER SUP. CAN IS WHAT I'M SAYING IS OKAY, I GOT PERMISSION FROM PROPERTY OWNER MALLOY. I GOT PERMISSION FROM LACHMAN. I GET AN SVP, AND IT'S FOR THAT SUP? FOR ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF PROPERTY ZONED AUTHORIZED BY THE PROPERTY. SO, TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING, IF THE SUP CAN BE TIED TO THE FOOD TRUCK VENDOR ITSELF, NOT THE PROPERTY. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ZONING IS ALWAYS TIED TO THE PROPERTY, AND IT'S IT'S A LAND USE ISSUE.
BUT VICTORIA, I'LL LET YOU EXPAND ON THAT. NO. YEAH, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THE SUP IS IS A ZONING OF THAT PROPERTY. SO IT WOULD BE IF HE, IF HE HAD ONE PROPERTY OR TWO PROPERTIES THAT HE WANTED AN SUP FOR, WE COULD PUT, WE COULD ROLL THEM ALL INTO ONE ORDINANCE. BUT IT'S STILL IT HAS TO BE THE ZONING FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. IT'S NOT A ZONING FOR THE FOOD TRUCK. IT'S NOT A PERMIT SPECIFIC. YEAH, THAT THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH CALLING IT AN SUP.
AND I'VE I'VE GRIPED ABOUT THIS A MILLION TIMES. IT'S NOT A PERMIT. IT'S A ZONING. BUT YOU DON'T REALLY NEED THE ZONING. YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUP. CORRECT? CORRECT. SO LIKE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN FORNI. SO THEY HAVE A DESIGNATED AREA FOR ALL THESE FOOD TRUCKS ALSO. SO YES. SO WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET TO ALSO CREATES A DEFINITION FOR A MOBILE FOOD UNIT PARK OR FOOD TRUCK PARK. AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN SUP FOR FOR THAT. BASICALLY LET'S SAY SOMEBODY OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY SAY, I WANT TO OPEN UP A FOOD TRUCK PARK HERE. YOU CAN DESIGNATE THAT AS A FOOD TRUCK PARK, GET YOUR APPROVAL UP FRONT, AND MOBILE FOOD VENDORS CAN COME IN AND LEAVE. AND HE HAS A CONTRACT WITH EACH VENDOR, HOWEVER THEY WANT TO WORK THAT OUT. IN ADDITION TO THAT IS A SEPARATE DEFINITION FOR MOBILE FOOD UNIT. THAT WOULD SAY YOU HAVE TO GET AN SUP TO OPERATE IN THE CITY AND ANY OF THESE NONRESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, CAN OPERATE A FOOD TRUCK PARK IN ANY NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT SO LONG AS YOU MAINTAIN YOUR REGULAR HEALTH INSPECTIONS AND
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FIRE INSPECTIONS. SO THEY'RE REALLY KIND OF TWO TWO DIFFERENT BUT BOTH COVER AND CREATE A FOOD TRUCK PARK BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR ORDINANCE IS SILENT ON THAT.I THINK EITHER WAY WE HAVE TO HAVE A DEFINITION FOR THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S BECOMING MORE POPULAR. WE WANT TO GET AHEAD OF THAT RIGHT NOW. HOWEVER, IT HAS TO BE, OF COURSE, ON A PAVEMENT. YES. ASPHALT. YEAH. SO PART PART OF WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN HERE TOO, ARE UPGRADED DEFINITIONS FOR PARKING STANDARDS. AND FOOD TRUCK IS A VEHICLE. IT'S GOT TIRES. IT NEEDS TO BE ON CONCRETE AND POOP SURFACE. SO THAT'S INCLUDED. ON THE ON THE FOOD TRUCK PART. THE MOBILE PART OF THAT TOO, WHERE THEY HAVE TO LEAVE EVERY NIGHT OR CAN THEY BE THERE? THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE PROPER WAY TO DISCHARGE THE GRAY WATER, THE SEWER, WATER, ALL THAT. YEAH. THE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR OUR REGULAR MOBILE FOOD UNIT STANDARDS WOULD STILL APPLY NO MATTER WHAT. NOW, IN THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT THAT PROPERTY OWNER IS SEEKING, HE OR SHE COULD APPLY FOR THOSE SPECIAL USES, RIGHT? THEY COULD ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THAT PROPERTY. IS THAT RIGHT, VICTORIA? THEY CAN SET THEIR OWN HOURS. THEY CAN SET THEIR OWN, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF UNITS, THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. IT KIND OF GIVES THEM MORE OF LIKE A CUSTOM APPROACH FOR HOW THEY WANT TO SET UP THEIR FOOD, FOOD PARK. AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE ARE STALLS. RIGHT. INSTEAD OF FOOD TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
COMMISSIONER MEDINA YES, I BELIEVE THIS NEEDS TO GO TO ANOTHER MEETING. GIVE US A CHANCE TO READ THESE ORDINANCES AGAIN AND MAKE OUR NOTES, AND THEN COME BACK AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS IN DETAIL. YES, SIR. RIGHT NOW, JUST KIND OF DISCUSSING AROUND THE OFFICE, WE WERE WE WERE TARGETING THE JANUARY 26TH MEETING WITH THE PNC AND COUNCIL, HAVE A JOINT MEETING AND HAVE THEM ALL APPROVE. BUT, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL WANT TO ADJUST THE DATE, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WHATEVER WE PROPOSE IS GOING TO BE MAKE THE COUNCIL HAPPY FOR SURE, OKAY. SO I THINK THE 26 IS FINE NOW. YEAH, YEAH. WE HAVE A MEETING. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING? THE 2626. OKAY. LET'S SET IT FOR DECEMBER 26TH AGENDA THEN. IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT WE'LL WE'LL CONTINUE TO DISCUSS IT. JANUARY, JANUARY.
JANUARY 27TH. DO WE HAVE ON THE 12TH JANUARY. LET'S DO IT FOR SHOOT FOR THAT FOR THE 12TH.
YEAH. ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. THAT GOOD WITH Y'ALL. YES. GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MAYOR.
THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANKS BILL. AGENDA NUMBER FIVE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REGULAR SESSIONS COMING UP. ANY QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. IT IS NOW 7:04 P.M. WE ARE ADJOURNED FROM THE WORK SESSION AND WE WILL RESUME BOY. HIMSELF. CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
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WE'RE GOING TO START THE MEETING. IT IS. THIS IS THE REGULAR SESSION AT 7:13 P.M. IF YOU WOULD STAND FOR THE PLEDGE INVOCATION IN THE PLEDGE. HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY. THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR US IN SPITE OF WHAT WE DO. PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AS THEY PROTECT US. GIVE US THE WISDOM TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS POSSIBLE FOR OUR CITY. PROTECT EACH PERSON HERE TONIGHT. GIVE THEM A SAFE TRIP HOME. BLESS THEIR FAMILIES. WE ASK THIS IN JESUS CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. THANK YOU MAY BE SEATED. OVERALL. YOU HAVE EVERYTHING, I GUESS. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YOU NO AGENDA NUMBER NINE. CENTRAL ELEMENTARY. YES.[00:35:18]
SO IF OUR CENTRAL ELEMENTARY STAFF AND STUDENTS. Y'ALL CAN COME RIGHT UP HERE. OH, HEY, THIS IS FOR YOU. OH. THANK YOU. SORRY, BABY GIRL. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE IS EXTREMELY PROUD TO BE THE HOME OF CENTRAL ELEMENTARY, WHICH HAS EDUCATED COUNTLESS STUDENTS WITH THE COMMUNITY TO BECOME SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS THE CHILDREN AT RISK RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THE LIST OF NORTH TEXAS AREA 2425 SCHOOL RANKING FOR THE GOLDEN RIBBON SCHOOL, AND WHEREAS, THE GOLDEN RIBBON SCHOOLS HONOR PUBLIC ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOL SERVING ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS BUT CONSIDERED HIGH PERFORMING BY MEASUREMENT STUDENTS ACHIEVEMENT, GROWTH, AND RELATIVE PERFORMANCE. AND WHEREAS THIS YEAR'S AMONG THE TOP TEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NAMED IS CENTRAL ELEMENTARY. NOW I.THEREFORE, DENNIS K CHILDERS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 8TH, 2025 AS CENTRAL ELEMENTARY GOLDEN RIBBON DAY ARE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.
THAT IS. GREAT JOB GUYS. HEY THERE. THE ONLY A SCHOOL WE HAVE IN OUR. SO GREAT JOB.
MIDDLE SCHOOL IS BE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS A BE. THAT'S ACTUALLY AMAZING TO BE A THEY REALLY DO RECOGNIZING. PUBLIC I'M SORRY A NUMBER 11 IS TO RECOGNIZE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STAFF CHRIS RYAN AND JUSTIN WILKERSON IF THAT COMES. OUT HERE KEEP ROLLING. I DON'T CARE WHAT'S GOING ON. WHEN THEY'RE CALLED, THEY GET OUT THERE AND DO IT. AND THIS IS FOR SUPERIOR PERFORMANCE, UNWAVERING PROFESSIONAL, HARD WORK AND DEDICATION REFLECTS A HIGH STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE. ALRIGHT, THIS IS NUMBER 11, TEN, TEN. AND IF YOU WOULD, CHIEF RAY KELLY, IF YOU COME TO THE FRONT, PLEASE. A LITTLE TOUGH HERE. THERE'S A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS TODAY WE HONOR AND CELEBRATE 34 YEARS OF DISTINGUISHED PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE CAREER OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OF LOCAL COMMUNITIES BY POLICE CHIEF RAY CALVERLEY. AND WHEREAS, CHIEF CALVERLEY JOINED LAW ENFORCEMENT AS A RESERVE DEPUTY WITH THE DALLAS COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. NOVEMBER 11TH OF 1991. AND WHEREAS, HIS WAY TO THE CITY OF SEVILLE ON MARCH THE 11TH OF 1994 BY JOINING THE DEPARTMENT AS A RESERVE POLICE OFFICER AND SHORTLY AFTER BECOMING A FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER ON PATROL AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE.
PATROL AND HE BECAME A K-9 HANDLER WITH TWO CERTIFIED DOG DOGS NAMED TERRY AND SAM, HE ADVANCED TO THE RANKS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF CORPORAL, SERGEANT, LIEUTENANT, AND CAPTAIN WHEREVER, WHEREAS HE WAS ASSIGNED AS A OPERATIONS COMMANDER UNTIL BEING APPOINTED CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2015, LEAVING THE DEPARTMENT
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FOR TEN YEARS, MAKING A POSITIVE INFLUENCE, UPHOLDING HIGH STANDARDS OF PROFESSIONALISM AND INTEGRITY. HIS DEDICATION, EFFECTS, CONTRIBUTION TO THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF HIS FELLOW CITIZENS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, DENNIS K CHILDRESS, MAYOR AND CITY, WILL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 8TH, 2025, AS POLICE CHIEF RAY CALVERLEY DAY.WHERE'S CARL IT? I NEED SOMEBODY TO SAY SOMETHING STUPID. I MEAN, IT'S FUNNY. NOW, JUST. SERIOUSLY, MAYOR, MAYOR, PRO TEM COUNCIL JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME IN THIS DEPARTMENT. AND I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, ONE OF THE BEST COUNCILS THIS CITY HAS EVER HAD. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF IN ALL OF THE BEST. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR THE DEDICATION THAT THEY'VE SHOWN ME AND THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'VE SHOWN ME OVER THE YEARS. SOMETIMES WHEN I DIDN'T DESERVE IT. I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK MY WIFE. YEAH. SHE PUT UP WITH ME FOR 43 YEARS, ALMOST 43 YEARS AND 31 OF THAT BEING HERE.
BUT PROBABLY THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT THANK YOU, IS TO THE. TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND ME THAT I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE, PLEASURE AND HONOR TO WORK WITH FOR THIS PAST 31, A LITTLE OVER 31 YEARS. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'VE NEVER FELT SO PROTECTED IN MY WHOLE LIFE. TODAY. YOU ARE RIGHT HERE. YEAH. NOT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO MISS SOMEBODY. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SPECIAL OCCASION. ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE NEED TO MOVE ALONG. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR SEAGOVILLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, MAYOR'S REPORT. AS PENNIES ARE NEARING THE END OF PRODUCTION, THE US TREASURY DEPARTMENT PLACED ITS FINAL ORDER ON PENNY BLANKS AND IN MAY, AND THEY ARE EXPECTED TO RUN OUT BY EARLY 2026. THE CITY OF SEAGOVILLE IS UPDATING ITS CASH HANDLING POLICY TO IMPLEMENT A CLEAR ROUNDING POLICY FOR AMOUNTS ENDING ENDING IN PENNIES. WE WILL USE
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SYMPTOMATIC ROUNDING TO THE NEAREST NICKEL AS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN, AND YOU CAN READ THEM IF YOU WANT TO. SO THAT'S THE PENNY IS LEAVING. I DON'T I GUESS IT'S CALLED NICKEL BANKS NOW OR MAYBE DOLLAR BANKS. I DON'T KNOW WHO SAVES ANY MONEY ANYWAY. IF YOU GOT YOUR PENNIES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF CIRCULATION. MIGHT NEED TO GET RID OF ALL THEM THAT YOU GOT BURIED IN THE YARD. NUMBER 313. WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, DO WE? ALRIGHT. REGULAR[Regular Agenda]
AGENDA. CONSIDER APPROVING THIS CITY COUNCIL. MANY MEETING MINUTES NOVEMBER 24TH, 2025 AND THE CITY. HAVE ANY COMMENT OR THE COUNCIL HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR MOTION? MOVE MAYOR MOVE. WE MOVE. APPROVE. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14. SECOND, GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14. ALL IN FAVOR? NONE OPPOSED. MOVING TO 15 TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER COUNSELING THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 22ND. MR. NEIL, GOOD EVENING.MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER THE CANCELLATION OF THE DECEMBER 22ND, 2025 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. THAT MEETING IS THE WEEK OF CHRISTMAS, AND THERE'S NO PRESSING ITEMS THAT ARE HAVING TO BE CONSIDERED ON THAT PARTICULAR MEETING. SO IT IS AT THE PLEASURE OF THIS BODY TO EITHER CANCEL THAT MEETING OR RETAIN IT. THE CHARTER REQUIRES ONE MEETING A MONTH. THAT MEETING HERE SUFFICE FOR THAT REQUIREMENT. AND SO AGAIN, IT'S AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING BEING CANCELED. MAYOR, I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 15. SECOND GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15. ALL IN FAVOR? NONE OPPOSED THE AGENDA 16. DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADDITIONAL DATES TO DESIGNATE AS HOLIDAYS FOR DECEMBER OF 2025. MR. HERNANDEZ, YOU PUT THIS ON THE COUNCIL? YES, SIR. AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IT IS WELL DESERVING OF STAFF TO GIVE THEM CHRISTMAS. HOLIDAYS. I WOULD APPROVE. A MOTION AND A SECOND NO FURTHER AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16. ALL IN FAVOR? NONE OPPOSED. VOTING TO. AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER 17. DISCUSS ITEMS, COMMUNITY INTEREST AND COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT. MR. HERNANDEZ. YEAH, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN OUR NEWSLETTER, BUT I JUST WANT TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW A COUPLE OF THINGS GOING ON AT THE AT THE LIBRARY. FIRST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A VISIT FROM MISS CLAUS ON DECEMBER 15TH. SO IF YOU GOT GRANDKIDS, KIDDOS. IT'S DECEMBER 15TH. AND THIS IS A CHALLENGE FOR COUNCIL.
THOSE THAT NEED TO LEARN OR WANT TO LEARN TO PLAY CHESS LIKE ME, OR KNOW HOW TO PLAY CHESS, OR THEY HAVE A CHESS CLUB. NOW EVERY SECOND AND FOURTH TUESDAY IN THE LIBRARY FROM 6 TO 7. AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE. I PLAY. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHESS. I JUST KNOW CHECK MAINTENANCE ABOUT IT. IT'S PLAY POKER, PLAY POOL, MR. HOWARD? NOTHING. NOTHING. MAYOR.
MR. EPP? YEAH, I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, I GOTTA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO CHRIS AND HIS TEAM FOR THAT WATER LEAK THAT THEY DEALT WITH AND APPRECIATE THAT I DO A GOOD JOB. Y'ALL GO ABOVE AND BEYOND OF WHAT? WHAT WE REQUIRE AND WHAT Y'ALL DO. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. DEFINITELY TO THE PARKS. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR PUTTING THAT TREE UP. I WAS OUT THERE WITH Y'ALL. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK FLUFFING TREES, LIMBS AND STUFF. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR TIME TO DOING ALL THAT. WE WON'T BE HERE. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I TELL STAFF, MERRY CHRISTMAS. THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO AGAIN. IF IT WASN'T FOR COUNCIL AND CITY ATTORNEY, WE WOULDN'T BE IN THE POSITION WE'RE IN NOW. AGAIN, YEARS AGO WE WE STARTED
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FROM THE BOTTOM AND WE WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT. AND THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY BEING TEAM PLAYERS AND BEING WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. AND CARRIE, THANK YOU FOR COMING ABOARD AND KEEPING US STRAIGHT. WITHOUT YOU, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE'RE AT. ALSO, SAME THING WITH SARAH.I SAY IT AGAIN. EVEN THOUGH SHE SHOWED UP LATE, WE STILL WE STILL HIRED HER AND SHE'S THE BEST ONE THAT WE'VE HAD. THANK YOU. SARAH, YOU GOT TO LET THAT GO, JOHN. IT'S GOING TO KEEP YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, SIR, JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU CAN TAKE HIS BOX BACK, OKAY? YEAH. ALRIGHT. WE KNOW. EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE 18. NO EXECUTIVE SESSION TONIGHT.
WE'LL GO INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS WILL GO BACK THE OTHER WAY, MR. EPPS. NOTHING, SIR. NOTHING, MAYOR. NOTHING. MAYOR. WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA COUNCIL DISCUSSIONS FOR THAT. SO BEFORE I ASK IF EVERYBODY'S HAPPY, I'D SAY EVERYBODY HAVE A WONDERFUL CHRISTMAS. REMEMBER THE REASON FOR THE SEASON. IT'S NOT JUST GIFTS. IT'S THE BIRTH OF OUR SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. WITH THAT SAID, IS EVERYBODY HAPPY? WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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